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Redmadrumma05
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« on: June 14, 2003, 10:11 AM »

I was wondering what would be the best heads from aquarian for a drummer who likes to play with all styles, esp jazz and rock? I alraedy have some in mind but the one im most concerned about is the sn. heads:
SN-(top) Text. coated w/power dot (bottom)classic clear
Toms-Performance ll two ply heads clear)
And i already own a Super Kick l single ply clear bassdrum head

Thanks for the suggestions! Grin
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K3nnyRog3rs
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2003, 10:35 AM »

aquarian super kick 3 for the bass, best drumhead i've ever had.  I have studio X's on my toms, which sound allright, but i have yet to try the double ply aquarian heads.
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2003, 11:36 AM »

check out Aquarian's drumhead tips page on their website.

http://www.aquariandrumheads.com/drumhead_tips/default.asp

according to them, an all around setup would be:

snare = texture coated, single ply
tomtoms = texture coated (batter), classic clear (resonant)
bass = Super Kick I (batter), Regulator (resonant)

seems like you need a tougher setup that's still sensitive, so the TC w/ Reverse Dot seems like a good snare compromise.

but i've heard the Performance II's would be kinda dead sounding for jazz.  not opened up enough.  you might want something a bit more sensitive and open sounding like a Response 2 or if you want more sensitive, the Double Thins.

as for your bass drum, the Super Kick I is a great for that low low bottom end "boom", but for rock, you might want something with a bit more punch.  

a Super Kick II would keep that low booty, but being two ply is a bit punchier.  my buddy and I tried both on his Yamaha 22x16 and really liked the boomy punch of the SKII.

but, lots of guys here seem to favor the Force I.  much punchier and a more focused attack.  by the looks of it, seems similar to a Remo Powerstroke 3 which seems to be a rock mainstay for alot of bass drums.  Steve Smith uses the P3 for all his apps including rock & jazz, so i'm sure you'd be fine with a Force as well.
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Redmadrumma05
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2003, 06:34 PM »

thanks guys!
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2003, 08:32 PM »

Don't get performance 2s, get response 2s. Depending on tuning those can give you all the rock thud you want, and will also be more sensitive and fuller sounding.
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2003, 10:14 PM »

I find the coated Response II heads a little too attenuated.  I was hoping for a little more resonant sound with a cut only in the upper frequency range.  I find I must hit them REALLY hard to get decent volume, unlike the G2s they replaced.  I think if the kit is mic'd, then this is a non-issue, but it is for me.  The Response IIs are great heads, but they aren't quite the right heads for me.  I think I'll try the double thins or Satin Finish Texture Coated next.  YMMV.

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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2003, 03:43 PM »

Jeepn, it sounds like you definitely wanna go for the Double-Thins.  If that's what you're looking for, you can't go wrong with the clears.

Again, a lot of head choices depend kit-to-kit.  I love clear double-thins on my old Tama Rockstars, but I recently switched out those heads (yeah, I know, stupid) to my new Tama Starclassic Maple kit and they just weren't working as well as the Evans Genera G2s that the kit came stock with.  Maybe it's the fact that the double-thin heads were sorta worn-out, but I'll probably be replacing the clear G2s with Aquarian clear Response 2s.

I'm not a fan of coated heads on toms (I know, dang near blasphemy around here!).  The only time I've ever put them on a kit (Tama Rockstar, my church's), I used Texture Coated Studio-Xs, which oddly enough were the perfect heads for the application.
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2003, 06:25 AM »

I will probably give the double thins a try next after my usual coated Emperors.  I tried the Studio X heads and absolutely hated them.  Loved the Super Kick II batter but hated the resonant.  I wish there was a way to try out heads BEFORE buying them.  Replacing heads (esp. kick heads) can get REALLY expensive.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2003, 08:38 AM »

Has anyone tried the carmine appice or tommy lee signature heads.

I would really like to try a heavy single ply head next.  Who makes one?  Or just go with a medium weight single and a power dot?  If they sound like remo CS's I will be very dissapointed.

dbl thins are too thin, response 2's and PII's are too heavy for me...Evan's G2 clears are close to my ideal head, but they just don't last and have a narrow tuning range.

as always YMMV

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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2003, 10:09 AM »

I just put clear double thins on my toms last week and I can't tell you how pleased I am.  They sound great and were very easy to tune.  I was going for Response II's but they were out of stock on a couple of sizes so I went with double thins.

Also went with Hi-energy batter head on my Acrolite snare on Mr A's recommendation.  Very, very pleased with the result on that one too.
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2003, 01:13 PM »

Has anyone tried the carmine appice or tommy lee signature heads



I have the Carmine Appice Snare, and so does my teacher!  We both agree this head kills... He just recorded with it and it sounds awesome.  It really holds up with the kevelar center..

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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2003, 01:59 PM »

I've had that head on snare...very edgy...I might like it on toms though.
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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2003, 12:16 PM »

Ok, after our fine moderators' recommendations I ordered some new skins for the sonors.

aquarian classic clears with dot
high frequency resos "video gloss black"
regulator with the 7" hole. (impact 1 on batter as usual)

those suckers should SCREAM with that set up.

hopefully I'll dig them after I get used to them!

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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2003, 12:30 PM »

Ok, after our fine moderators' recommendations I ordered some new skins for the sonors.

aquarian classic clears with dot
high frequency resos "video gloss black"
regulator with the 7" hole. (impact 1 on batter as usual)

those suckers should SCREAM with that set up.

hopefully I'll dig them after I get used to them!


Give the tom heads some time - those dot heads feel and sound different than any I've played, and it took me a while to get accustomed to them. Now I love them, and I REALLY love not having to replace my tom heads every few weeks!
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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2003, 03:25 PM »

...very edgy...

A, new term for me.. is that equiv to sharp, loud etc?  

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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2003, 04:01 PM »

Impact I's on BD (I don't care for the sound of double ply heads), clear Studio X's on toms, and coated Attack on SD.
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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2003, 07:26 PM »

Ok, after our fine moderators' recommendations I ordered some new skins for the sonors.

aquarian classic clears with dot
high frequency resos "video gloss black"
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interesting choice of heads.  

the CC's are one ply, no?  i thought you were a dark, low tuned double ply kinda guy, Felix?
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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2003, 07:20 AM »

I like two ply heads, but with the evans g2's always were tuned pretty taught.  You couldn't tune them loose, they would sound like caca and just a little too tight and it was choke city.  every two ply head I've used are always kinda cranked up.

I prefer bright but focused toms.  

I havn't tried them yet, but like mr. a said, I am sick of needing new heads every couple of weeks.  I'm not that hard of a player either.
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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2003, 10:09 PM »

texture coated with power dot RULESSS Smiley


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