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zrated1

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« on: June 19, 2003, 08:25 PM »

I play on a 16 piece Roland V-Custom run off a DM5 (for some cymbal and percussion pieces) and a Roland TD8 for the main drums and cymbals. My question is has anyone found a good setting for a normal sounding ride out of the TD8? and if so PLEASE post your tuning settings etc. so I can try and get a decent sounding ride out of this. Thats the only shortcoming I have found in this set-up so far. Any help would be appreciated....Oh I am playing it on a Roland PRO duel trigger ride.


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E-Drummers...Roland TD8 Ride setting?

« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2003, 01:13 PM »

Is it the sound or the response you're having problems with?

On my Yamaha kit, I found it was best to tweak the ride sounds while using a tom pad to trigger the sound. The tom pad provided a more consistent response.

Then I realized I was a lot better just using a tom pad for the ride altogether. The cymbal pads are fine for crashes, but not good enough for a ride.

I would expect more from your kit, though.


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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2003, 02:20 PM »

It's the overall sound that's lacking. No matter what setting, tuning or ride I choose it just sounds TINNY to me, like a cheap metal cymbal. I have used a tom pad for the ride and your right it does trigger much better.


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E-Drummers...Roland TD8 Ride setting?

« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2003, 05:01 PM »

I can't offer much help on the TD-8 since I don't have any experience with it. But I've been pretty pleased with some of the stock cymbal sounds on my TD-10 with TDW-1 epansion kit. Although there's still a lot of tinny sounding cymbals in the collection. I've found about 3 kits I like for most of the songs my band plays. And I like the stock settings for the cymbals. A roll on them is about the only thing that doesn't come out well, and with a little experimentation I hope to overcome that effect some day.


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E-Drummers...Roland TD8 Ride setting?

« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2003, 06:29 AM »

Zrated1, I use the TD8 and trigger with a HartDynamics TE3 Gigapro kit with ECymbalsII. I am using a pretty much stock sound with a few minor trigger tweaks, but at first I thought they sounded a bit thin as well. Until I recorded them and played back in a diffrent set of headphones, then monitors and then the car.
It turns out, when I changed monitors/envronments the cymbals sounded fine in the mix. So I changed the headphones I monitored with ( actually I upgraded to a better pair Wink

) and it sounded much better.
I did have to tweak the triggers forever to get the right "feel" of hitting a cymbal, and the HD ecymbalsII series has a metal ride and hats which also helped to make the whole e-kit thing more like acoustics for me. but I digress..... Roll Eyes

I can send you my settings, but I think you should record them ( if possible) and make sure it's not just your monitoring system making them sound "tinny". Also as Winger pointed out...try a couple of the other cymbal settings and record them.
I will find my settings and send them, but I think you might be able to switch monitoring and get the sounds you want.
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E-Drummers...Roland TD8 Ride setting?

« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2003, 07:43 AM »

If ALL the rides you can choose from in the TD-8 are sounding "tinny" to you, it may well be your phones or monitor(s) as suggested above. If you are using phones, consider recording a sequence using your current favorite ride sound and loop it, then take the module down to your local music/hi-fi store and try out a variety of phones to verify if this is indeed the problem.

If it is, you still could try to EQ it away, although, I think that a good set of phones may also make enough of a global difference to justify the cost. I've compared a lot of phones and to my ears, the Sony 7506s are about the best value for money for monitoring drum modules at under $100. Your mileage may, as always, vary.

If you are using monitors and find they are the culprit, a little EQ, something like a BBE sonic maximizer (or reconsidering monitor choice) may be alternatives to explore.

The cymbal sounds that you get with the TDW-1 upgrade (only for TD-10) are truly much better. As far as modules go, they are some of the best so far. However, I much prefer some of the great sample sets out there to any sounds (drum or cymbal) that I've ever heard from any module.

If your cymbal doesn't trigger well, that's a separate issue. Don't know what you mean by Roland PRO, but the current Roland ride triggers extremely well (although I have physically modified mine to improve it even further but that is another story).