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ADNdrumNUT
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« on: June 23, 2003, 06:14 PM »

hey guys, as you have probably already herd im in search for a new kit £1500 or under, im at such a confused stage, as im playing a tama rockstar at the moment its time to step up. It has served me well but im on the decision onf a sonor kit or a JALAPENO kit, a uk make, fantastic drums. But thier a new company ahhh www.jalapenodrums.co.uk

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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2003, 06:27 PM »

Quote from http://www.jalapenodrums.co.uk/
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The direction of the grain in two thirds of each shell, including the innermost and outermost layers, is down the length of the shell, as opposed to around the drum, which is more commonly found in mass produced drums. This ensures a faster, more cutting response, as sound travels 4 times faster along the grain than across it (researched by Professor Charles Taylor of the Royal Institute).

That's pretty interesting, and it makes sense to me!
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2003, 10:22 PM »

Interesting, indeed.  Do you have the opportunity to test out those Jalapeno drums?  They are a bit unique, especially with the direction of the wood grain.  I'd love to give them a test ride.

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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2003, 11:07 PM »

Wow, that's impressive stuff.  I'm in the market for a new kit, i think i'll do some research and see if i can find a dealer for some info.
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2003, 04:11 AM »

yea guys , the uk rhythm magazine reviewed them and said they would make an amazing live kit as they have a range of volumes on and are apprently reallypowerful. This could setme off to being an individual drummer and since its a small company i might ask for a sponsor but i would have to impress them first

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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2003, 09:08 AM »

When I saw John Paul Jones open for King Crimson back in late 2001, his drummer, Terl Bryant, was playing a Jalapeno kit.  It sounded incredible...but what I really want is a Torforan, which Terl Bryant invented in conjunction with Jalapeno.  It's a weird hybrid version of a traditional bodhran and...well, it's about the size of a large pandeiro.  That's all I can compare it to, but it sounded great during JPJ's acoustic numbers in his set.
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2003, 06:35 PM »

jalapeno sounds really impressive!  i want one of their sets.
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2003, 07:10 PM »

I've been thinking about the grain thing. Wouldn't the horizontal grain pick up more of the characteristics of the wood where vertical grain would minimize the effects of the wood?
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I was looking at the sets at my local store and checked out the grain. Mapex was the only drum with horizontal grain on the inside and out. The Sonor 3003 and Yamahas had vertical interior grain. One of those sets has vertical outside and in, but I can't remember which one. Maybe Yamaha. My Premiers have horizontal in and out.
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2003, 05:02 AM »

I was looking at the sets at my local store and checked out the grain. Mapex was the only drum with horizontal grain on the inside and out. The Sonor 3003 and Yamahas had vertical interior grain. One of those sets has vertical outside and in, but I can't remember which one. Maybe Yamaha. My Premiers have horizontal in and out.
I think more mid range and upper end sets use some vertical grain than the Jalapeno site lets on. Exterior, it's only about appearance, interior...Nudrum raises an interesting point. There could be some difference in tone or volume.
Sonor points out on their site that when they sent manufacturing for certain models from Germany to Taiwan, they went from vertical to horizontal. It's about cost. Vertical is more expensive to machine bearing edges.
It seems to me that stacking plies in more than one direction is essential for dimensional stability, but I don't know if the direction of the inner ply would have as much impact as things like the type of wood or the inner finnish.
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2003, 05:50 AM »

There are two problems with the grain running vertical in drum shells.  With vertical grain, it is easier to accidentally damage the bearing edges, as they are not as durable.  I am also concerned about the normal wear to the edges with vertical grain.  The Second problem is when the grain is running vertical, the shell will not be as resistant to warping and it will be much easier for the drum to go out-of-round in coming years.
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