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SteveG

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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2002, 01:28 PM »

Like the others have said, listen to the greats (including Joe Morello and Buddy Rich whose names I believe have been omitted from this thread). There is also a great Mel Bay book called "Drum Standards" which are transcriptions of ten classic jazz songs. The drummers charted include Joe Morello, Roy Haynes, Tony Williams and Elvin Jones to name a few. At $14.95 it is a steal!


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kmgaines

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Re:How to swing

« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2002, 10:48 AM »

I think I saw James and Bart touch on this.
One key is to lock in with the Bass Player.
Buy him a drink, cigarette, whatever he needs (no I'm not suggesting anything illegal, but you get my point), but lock in with him. If you lock in with a very good Bass Player, it'll make you pee your pants it Swings So Good ! Then, he'll buy You, any thing you need ! Everything else is Gravy !

They're tellin' you right about the quarter notes on the ride. Check Jimmy Cobb on 'Kinda Blue'. So simple, So Swingin'.
All the great Drummers listed on this thread, check out how they lock in with the Bass Player.
In closing, listen to the great old cats on Bass.
I know as Drummers, we are the Timekeepers by function, but a great Bass Player can carry you to
'Sweavin' ! (swingin' Heaven)


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James Walker

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Seriously - where's the plane?

Re:How to swing

« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2002, 04:05 PM »

Quote from: kmgaines on April 19, 2002, 10:48 AM

I think I saw James and Bart touch on this.
One key is to lock in with the Bass Player.
(snip)
They're tellin' you right about the quarter notes on the ride. Check Jimmy Cobb on 'Kinda Blue'. So simple, So Swingin'.

Hmmm...

A key to swing is locking in with the bass player...

Hmmm...

bass players usually walk quarter-note-based lines in straight-ahead jazz...

Hmmm (yet again)...

quarter notes on the ride cymbal...

Hey, anyone else detecting a pattern here??? Shocked

(I'm pointing out something that km' probably knows already - something that saved my hide on many a gig back in my drum set days - when in doubt, get your ride cymbal to lock in with your bassist's walking lines, and you're at least 90% of the way there...)


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"Less is more." "Play for the song." "Smaller setups make you more creative." Come on, folks - get past the bumper sticker slogans and THINK. Take some responsibility for your creative choices.

Stop hiding behind tiresome platitudes.

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