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« on: July 23, 2003, 10:29 AM »

I'm looking at getting a Hart Dynamics kit to complement my accoustic kits and hopefully add some more practice options. Hart seems to recommend the TD-8 if you just want to play while recommending the TD-10 if you like to tweak.

Has anyone used both of these units enough to have a preference for one over the other?

Is it possible to hook either unit up to a PC and 'hack' it from there or are you limited to the panel interface?

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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2003, 10:55 AM »

I would tend to agree with Hard Dynamics.

The TD-10 allows more parameters to be controlled. Add the TDW-1 and you get more memory, more sounds, and even more controls.

You can change things like shell depth, microphone type, mic angle, distance, room, pan, pitch, attack, and other envelope parameters and dynamics.

Omar Hakim uses the TD-10 because he likes to tweak a LOT! He will record his performance via MIDI so he can alter every parameter possible. Then he can play it back over and over again, making change after change, without having to perform the song again.

These are details that probably would not matter in a live performance, but mean a great deal in a studio environment. If you're going to perform it live, I would think a TD-8 would suffice. It ultimately depends on your use and how far you want to take your e-drumming.

As for hacking into them, I know nothing about that.


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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2003, 11:24 AM »

You might try doing a search on http://vdrums.com/forum/.

They have a wealth of info for edrums.
I have a gigapro with a TD-8, but no TD-10 experiance, and use it for quiet practice at home.

Hope this helps.

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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2003, 02:43 PM »

I also use a Td-8 over a Td-10, mostly due to what you are getting for almost double the price. There is alot of tweaking you can already do with the Td-8, however I have heard that with the expansion for the 10 the cymbals are what are really more noticably better. It really depends on what you want to do with the kit. If you are going to do alot of studio stuff and/or professional playing you should prob spend the extra money on the td-10 w the upgrade. If you are just playing in your garage or at home for practice, I would really recommend the 8. Just my 2 cents.


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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2003, 02:50 PM »

Exactly. I have lots of situations where a TD-6 would even work. For now, I use my SPD-20 and Cubase w/VST plugins.

Some pro drummers I've talked with recently simply couldn't justify spending the $$$ on a TD-10 for what they do. Others can't live without their TD-10.

I can't afford to kill an ant with an atom bomb, but I will certainly try to take over the world with ant spray. Grin


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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2003, 05:06 PM »

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I can't afford to kill an ant with an atom bomb, but I will certainly try to take over the world with ant spray.

I guess I'd rather nuke'm and make sure I get it right! Grin

Seriously, I got a good deal on my TD-10 with TDW-1 expansion and I love it dearly. Howerver I would never had bought it if I would have had to buy it new. Thanks to eBay and a few weeks of searching I landed mine at a fair price. The TD-8 & others would sure work for live gigs with no problem. But there IS a lot fiddling that can be done with the td-10 and I like that aspect of it, as well as the bigger display.

Good luck figuring out what's best for you. Don't forget to look for good used equipment too! It's a great way to get more equipment for less $$.


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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2003, 05:27 PM »

I would love to have a TD-10 with expansion capabilities. This would be a great tool to use. My current projects wouldn't call for it, but I could put it to use in the future.

At the time I got my SPD-20, owning a full-blown e-kit was not even a thought in my mind. Now it is going to soon become a necessity.

When I was recently and briefly in drum sales, I would tell people to "consider their future needs before they make purchases" as I would direct them to the TD-10.

This consideration is something I hadn't done in the past.

For the studio projects I've signed to, I don't even use the sounds in my SPD-20. I just use the VST plugins in Cubase. Make the drum tracks/loops and email to the producer.

He does his own tweaking to suit, and then the PayPal is in the bank!

This is but a precursor of things to come. I'd better save up my pennies and prepare for the future!

I guess my best advice is the advice I didn't follow a few years back. Grin

As you weigh the benefits of the 8 and 10, consider your future pursuits.


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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2003, 07:19 AM »

I have a HartDynamics GigaPro TE3 with a TD-8 module.
I made the choice based on my needs and the role this kit plays. I use it for practice and for laying tracks in the home studio ( audio sketch pad ). Any Studio work I do is done with Acoustics. No replacing them babies!
You can still do a fair amout of "tweaking" with the TD-8. Shell type, depth, room size, EQ and a bunch of others...so don't think they arn't as flexable as the TD-10...the TD-10 just has MORE of everything.
There are multiple threads on the subject here so you might want to search a bit for some of the older threads.
I also did a review of my kit and module when I got them so in the gear review archives there is info there as well.

As others here have said...it's about personal choice and what you want to do with it, but in my opinion, it has a pretty good bang for the buck.

I like the way the TD-8 sounds. I find it easy to use. it works for me.
YMMV
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2003, 08:19 AM »

I have the SPD 20 but sold my roland kit (with the td8) when I was in a cash crunch last year.

The TD8 was a great little box and I was happy with the editing versatility for all the patches. You could almost make the sounds your own.

I'm going to get another TD8 and use my spd 20 or the new roland drum triggers- to trigger it. I've done it b4 and it's not a bad way to go.


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