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« on: July 28, 2003, 06:53 PM »

I'm going on my 1st professional audition for an original band on Thursday. I need to know how I should dress and play? I'm a clean cut 38yo, short hair but I like to wear rebel type head wraps and sunglasses while I play and like to change my wraps as I see fit to the music (US flag, sculls & x-bones, camo and a Japanese ZERO bandana). The band I'm auditioning for is a cross between AudioSlave & Evervesance. My Huh is, should I bring my WEARS and just be myself (it's also part of my showman ship) or should I just go dressed in my normal jeans and T and forget the other stuff? also any tips on what I should say/do to help me out. I really want this job........ Thanks !
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2003, 07:27 PM »

Tough call. On one hand, if they rehearse in street clothes, you may look silly. But on the other hand, you want them to see your whole presentation.

Are you at all familiar with their "look"? If you've seen them perform, and your do-rag and shades fit in with their vibe, go for it. Otherwise, just wear something neutral but cool. Good luck!
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2003, 07:28 PM »

My opinion, make sure you are  memorable! If you sound good then they will be able to say "oh yeah the gut with the head wraps sounded great." I wouldn't get too extreme and have too much attitude but look interesting.
Spoken from the point of view of a conservative looking guy who has never done an audition like that.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2003, 07:33 PM »

One important thing would be to let them know you will do whatever it takes to work with the other members of the group to advance the overall image, music, and worth of the band.  
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2003, 08:51 AM »

I am going to see the band play tomorrow night (night before my audition) so I will get a better idea of their stage style. So I guess I will play it by ear LOL and see how they operate. I will be sure to tell them I'm willing to do anything to further the band as well. I know they are very serious about their music, already have 1 full length CD out and they are recording a second at the end of this year. Keep your figures crossed, I'll let you know how I do!
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2003, 09:09 AM »

Look them in the eye, shake their hands, and wear a smile.  The more comfortable they are with you, the more you'll be with them.

g'luck!  Grin

(keep the bandana in your back pocket just in case)
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2003, 08:10 AM »

Well I'm going to see the band tonight at a local gig and introduce myself to the band members. I feel like a little kid getting ready for the 1st day of school ! Smiley I'll let you know how our meeting goes. Keep your fingures crossed!
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2003, 08:59 AM »

Going to a gig before an audition is a BIG advantage. Do they want you to replace the drummer exactly, or are they looking for something more? Why is the current drummer leaving? Is he leaving on his own/is it a "friendly" split? Would he be approachable and available for questions? In a few situations, I've been fortunate enough to sit with the drummer I'm replacing and get lots of valuable information.

Some auditions would be in a studio where there was already a kit. I would take my pedal and sticks (sometimes cymbals), or whatever they said to bring. On only a few occasions I've taken my full kit.

They would have a kit there because they would be auditioning at least 10 drummers during the evening. We would each get about 15-20 minutes. Dragging kits in and out would take all night!

I would take a sheet that had a color photo of my kit with my gear list, as well as a few photos of some different "looks" that I've achieved with different bands. Now I have my website, but I still take these items for those who aren't online.

I learned to ask if it was a "dressed" audition. Some bands are picky about that. In a clinic, Sheila E said she considered it a joke when drummers would show up at her auditions dressed like Prince. Her advice was to "look clean, nice and presentable". Oh, and "be comfortable". It depends on the band, but clean is the best approach.

It was kinda funny, but a few weeks back this band (early 20s) was outside the rehearsal space next to ours. As I was unloading, I could hear their conversation. Three of the guys were confronting the fourth about his "jeans", and how he needed to "wear leather pants all the time." He felt that leather pants while promoting and at shows was enough. They were about 2 degrees away from firing him over this.

The conversation just seemed weird to me, because it had nothing to do with the guy being tacky on stage OR anything about sound. Anyway....

Best of luck to you on your audition. I'm certain it will go well!
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2003, 09:09 AM »

Okay, here's an evil-but-effective trick.

Take a small tape recorder to the gig. Small enough to fit in a jacket pocket. Have blank tapes and fresh batteries. Find a spot where you can hear them well, and stay put. Get their whole show on tape.

Then, learn their show. Learn it COLD.

But NEVER tell them you did this. Instead, just wow them at the audition, and act like you're just picking their stuff up intuitively. You've said they have a CD out - if you're serious about this gig, you should already own a copy of it and be working on their songs. But their live show will tell you how they play the songs NOW - many songs evolve over time, so that they differ from original recordings. And they probably have new songs that aren't on the CD.

I did this to land my first touring rock gig. I'm REALLY glad I did, because it led directly to my next touring gig, which was with a national act. I wouldn't have gotten the second gig if I hadn't won the first.

Play for keeps. That's how you win.

Good luck!

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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2003, 09:17 AM »

Drumwild... Thanks so much for posting your imput, to answer a few of your questions - The drummer is leaving because of other job commitments (corprate guy). They have advised me that he is willing to stay around and help the new drummer out with any questions etc. so he will be approachable to speak openly about the requirements. I have asked about playing style and it seems they are willing to look at some NEW added to their songs which is really cool for me. They asked I bring cymbals, pedals snare and stands so that's also a plus. I have done some research on the band, checking out their web site and others that have pics and have decided to take your advice and just go dressed in jeans and a nice sleevless dress T and some hiking boots to be on the safe side. I will let me drumming technique (very visual, cross cymbal hits and I kind of groove in my seat while playing) to impress them. I'm a very relaxed guy (nervous=energy for me) and I have already screwed up one audition because I was afraid to hit the @$%# drums like I wanted to. That's not gonna happen again! I am going all out, smiles eye contact and honesty is the way I'm going into this. I'll keep you updated.... Anyone else feel free to jump inn, you guys have given me some GREAT info... Thank You !
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2003, 09:27 AM »

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Daddy likes evil tricks!!!! That's awesome!  Grin

For an audition a few years back, I asked for advance materials... their response being they wanted me to "improvise". They had no website, but I found their MP3s on an IUMA site (searched MP3.com, too). Learned the songs, made my own parts, and went in. Got the gig!

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go dressed in jeans and a nice sleevless dress T and some hiking boots

If you can play in hiking boots, then kewl. Sounds like you are ultra-mega-prepared!!! Go get 'em!
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2003, 09:41 AM »

and some hiking boots

Can you play in those?

When it comes to drumming shoes, remember that form (absolutely) follows function.

Not saying that you should cut down a pair of Chuck Taylors from the phone lines, I know you want to look nice, but they need to be comfortable and functional to play in.

I couldn't play in hiking boots myself.

Oh, and good luck on the audition!
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2003, 11:46 AM »

last tiem I tryed out to join a band the set I was supposed to play was set so weird I could barely play, I couldn't reach the rack toms at all!  I just stayed off them and stuck to snare and floor tom fills, so the guy seemed pretty impressed, then I jammed with him on drums and me on his guitar and we played metallica's motorbreath almost perfect, I didn't know the guitar solo for it so I had to invent my own but I pulled it off.  didn't get the gig but I didn't really expect to because it's a punk band and I'm not big on punk.  but I'll eventually get to come over my house and see what I can do on MY kit.
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2003, 03:16 PM »

The band I'm auditioning for is a cross between AudioSlave & Evervesance. My Huh is, should I bring my WEARS and just be myself (it's also part of my showman ship) or should I just go dressed in my normal jeans and T and forget the other stuff?

Be yourself. Dress how you want!  It's a rock band.  And, if you plan on dressing like that a lot then they're going to have to learn to deal with it anyway, unless you're willing to change your dresscode.  I'm a firm believer in putting everything on the table up front.  Plus bandanas are standard attire for drummers anyway!  If they get uptight about a bandana then they're in the wrong business! Grin  (It would be different, of course, if it was a country club jazz gig or something.)
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2003, 01:11 AM »

I say just walk in and first thing just walk up and punch the biggest guy right in the mouth. That will set the "tone" for the evening. Then throughout the evening keep refering to it as your band and how do they expect to want people to listen to YOUR band with them sounding like crap. Then about halfway through a song just get up and leave, they have your number..you dont need them. I think this will,for sure, make an unforgettable audition and they will NOT soon forget you. Or you COULD take the advice of all these actual "professionals"
who make "money" doing what they love. Hey someone had to give bad advice, might as well be me  Smiley Seriously, good luck dude!
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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2003, 02:27 PM »

Be sure and let us know how things go! Wink
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2003, 10:38 PM »

UPDATE: ---------

HOLY Crap.... They Loved me !!!!! Started playing 1st song and I was REALLY nervous, but it only took about 90 seconds and I just picked a spot on the wall and imagined myself practicing in my house having fun and the butterflies went away and I started to really groove. Mest up a few stop points in one song but they laughed it off and said they screw up on those sometimes as well. We played the 3 songs they gave me to learn (in 6 days) and I played it the way I would play instead of trying to duplicate the old drummer. "IT WORKED". They asked me how my wife would feel about me touring and being away from home a few days at a time and if I was willing to travel the 50 min. from home to practice, I said NO PROBLEM!

They gave me their full length CD and asked me to learn 4 more songs to come back next week for a full night Audition......WOW! I actually have a shot and could be playing at CBGB's in NY City in October some time........

Thanks for all of your help and tips, it really did make a difference !!!  I'll keep you up to date on next weeks audition..........!
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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2003, 10:50 PM »

BOOOOOOOOOO-YEA! DUDE!!!!

Congrats!  Grin
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2003, 10:52 PM »

Thats awsome!

Good luck with second audition!!
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2003, 10:55 PM »

Congratulations!!

Sounds like you got a good deal.
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