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CryoBrain
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« on: April 29, 2002, 09:02 AM »

I'm about to start laying down drum tracks with my band. We are looking for a really deep, full bass drum sound.

I"ve heard about building a "tunnel" that helps to achieve the sound we're looking for. I think it works by extending the effective depth of the drum by a few or several feet.

How do I build this tunnel, what do I make it out of, where should I mic it? Should it be attached to the drum or separate?

I would really appreciate if anyone could help me out.
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2002, 10:47 AM »

Dude, just mic your kick and focus on some happening tracks.  I think I know what sound you think you are wanting, and frankly, that's a triggered sound.  That is what all the cats are doing now in the hard rock genre from what I've been told.
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rlhubley
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2002, 07:07 AM »

i agree with Felix, but I do know of one trick that might help.  Grab your largest floor tom(preferabley 18"), tune it down as low as it can go while still sounding good.  Now, lay it on the floor in front of the bass drum, horizontally, so that it looks like an extension of the bassdrum.  Just put it one to two inches in front of the bass drum.  This will have the same basic effect of the DW woofers.  You'll have to play around with micing it, and you should probably make sure both heads of the floor tom are new and thin.
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2002, 07:26 AM »

i agree with Felix, but I do know of one trick that might help.  Grab your largest floor tom(preferabley 18"), tune it down as low as it can go while still sounding good.

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Another thought:  if you want to try this technique, and you're multitracking the session (vs. going "direct to two track"), record the bass drum as it is, and after the fact, set up this floor tom and a good speaker in the studio.  Mic' the floor tom, and record it onto a separate track as you play back the bass drum track through the speaker.  This will give you the ambience of the floor tom, but you can control it in the mix, and it won't leak into the other drum set mic's during tracking.

Or just use the BD track to trigger a sample, as Felix mentioned.

But if you really want "...a really deep, full bass drum sound," open the @$%# thing up - no pillows, no foam, nothing inside (well, maybe a felt strip on the front or back head).  Don't get spooked by the amount of ring when you play the BD by itself - most, if not all, will get masked by the other instruments when played in the full-band context.  The drum can sound this way on its own - you don't need to resort to studio techniques to do anything other than accurately record the drum - just make sure you have a mic' designed for bass frequencies.
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rlhubley
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2002, 07:43 AM »

I agree with James, two heads, no pillows.  Use heads that have the appropriate amount of muffling already.  If possible, use a full resonant head, no port.  
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ady-TAINE
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2002, 01:34 PM »

OK

Tune the BD until it sounds good...( for you ),
Place the mic ( Recomended  AKG D-112 ) half in, half out in the BD,

Use gate,compressor,eq,reverb

That is all...
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sidereal
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2002, 05:09 PM »

Use gate,compressor,eq,reverb


I'd recommend skipping on the reverb. Verb on the kick just isn't necessary, IMHO.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2002, 06:43 PM »

I'd recommend skipping on the reverb. Verb on the kick just isn't necessary, IMHO.

DITTO.

Maybe for a special song ... but in general, reverb on the kick drum is a big no-no. If you do use it, do so sparingly.
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