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Adam_

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Looking for advice playing a certain piece

« on: July 31, 2003, 02:04 PM »

I found this transcription a long time ago of Jeff Beck's "Led Boots", and finally got around to learning it. It's a cool piece! Check it out here:

http://www.jonmattox.com/drums/images/Narada%20Michael%20Walden%20-%20Led%20Boots%20Transcription%20by%20Jon%20Mattox-www.jonmattox.com.pdf

Anyway, I'm having trouble with certain things. Mainly,

1) Counting. I've tried counting regularly... "1 e & a 2 e & a," etc.. but without success because the 32nd notes throw me off. Instead, I try counting as though the peice were written in cut-time; "1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &," and counting 32nd notes as sixteenth notes. This works when I'm slowly working through it; however, when I play along to the song, it's too fast for me to count through. Which brings me to point 2...

2) Measure 7. The fill with offset 32nd notes. I've tried counting the 32nd notes as 16th's, but it's too fast to keep up. If I DON'T count, I can "feel" it okay, but I'm not satisfied; I don't always get it right either.

This is advanced for my skill level, but I'm looking for perfection. Any suggestions?

The 32nd notes on the bass drum are giving me trouble also.


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ritarocks

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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2003, 03:24 PM »

I would say practice the beat/licks to a comfortable speed with your metronome, gradually speeding it up everyday.
And when you finally achieve that speed, if you get thrown off, make sure you have the metronome set to beep on the 32nd's (as opposed to just going off on the quarters or halves) and jump right back in, in unison.


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Poopypants

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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2003, 09:52 AM »

Silly question: Have you listened to it?

If you're just playing it off the page, it won't make as much sense as if you already know how it sounded on the recording. Michael Walden is a great drummer. One of the "chops" guys who still has an undeniable feel.


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Adam_

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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2003, 11:36 AM »

Poopy: Yes. Tongue

That's what I'm having trouble with; playing along to the song while counting and keeping up with the drummer.

Rita: You're idea sounds good. I turned on the metronome after reading your post and realized I was playing out of time anyway. Tongue

Unfortunately, my metronome doesn't subdivide (the max tempo is 250).


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BlackEvovii

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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2003, 12:49 PM »

Try to count the 32nd notes without counting 1e+a...sometimes all that counting can be hard. Try counting 1 + 2 + and playing the 32nds inbetween that. once you get the feel you wont have to count every single note. As others suggested, start it off slow and when you feel comfortable raise the tempo. Also, play the bars that give you the most troubles over and over...even break them up into halfs or 4ths until you get the first part of 1 + and then work on 2 + and then 3 + and then 4 + and put them together.


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ritarocks

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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2003, 04:45 PM »

Quote from: Poopypants on August 01, 2003, 09:52 AM

Michael Walden is a great drummer.

Same with Jeff Beck's drummer Richard Bailey on the "Blow by Blow" album (one of my favorite drumming albums ever).


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Adam_

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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2003, 11:21 AM »

I was at Best Buy the other day and saw a CD 3-pack by Jeff Beck including Blow by Blow and Wired (I can't remember the other one). I was so tempted to buy it! I'll have to go back and pick it up one of these days.


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chrisso

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Re:Looking for advice playing a certain piece

« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2003, 02:42 AM »

The written part doesn't look right to me.
First off, I've always assumed the drumming was more loose than the part implies. The first bar starts with the tape machine going into record. Narada was probably mucking about quite loosely as he went into the first bar.
Something more concrete I can put my finger on is that there are only 7 beats between the first gtr power chord and the second. That would mean that the cymbal crash is more likely to land on the last 8th note of the previous bar.
On the 32nd note bass drums, try just flicking the double beat into the snre and crash hits. This is a lot easier than trying to count them individually.