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Simon B
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« on: May 02, 2002, 03:16 PM »

Two questions -

1) Although I have long given up trying to perfect it, from what my first drum teacher showed me, wrist pointing upwards, stick nestling directly into finger joints, thumb on top of stick is the supreme technical grip, allowing you to play with super speed and precision, fingers propelling stick on and off drum head.

But wrist over and thumb to the side seems the most natural grip. And I have seen from videos and performance that a lot of top drummers use this grip, at least sometimes (Gadd, Dejonette).

2) Also am I right in thinking that Latin timbale players - because the timbale sticks are lighter and thinner and cannot be gripped so effectively by the upwards grip -generally play over?


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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2002, 04:33 AM »

both are good. there isnt anything like "the best grip".

i do think that the traditional grip gives more precision, while matched gives more power and speed, but if you`ve been playing a couple of years it wouldnt matter much though.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2002, 06:21 AM »

I find myself naturally playing with wrists over most of the time.  While on the hihat especially it seems most natural to me, however when I rotate my right arm to the side to play on the ride I find my wrist naturally rolling over to a sideways grip.  My arm is pointing straight ahead generally with the stick angled slightly to the right.  I play that by rotating the wrist much in a hand wave fashion while the left hand on the snare remains wrist over moving in a flex-extension pattern.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2002, 08:27 PM »

Here's what I teach all of my students:

Let your arms hang down at your side. Take one stick and slide into your hand, with your arm still hanging down. You should be applying just enough pressure on the stick so that it doesn't slide out and fall on the floor.

Next, raise your arm, bending at the elbow, being sure to remain fully relaxed. It should be as if you are a puppet on a string and someone is lifting your arm at the wrist.

At whatever angle your wrist is at this point ... it's the best position for you right now.

God made your hand to hold a drumstick ... believe it or not. If you are fully relaxed ... you will naturally grip the stick the correct way. Sounds simple? IT IS!!!!

All the big boys are studying with people like Freddie Gruber in an effort to get back to the basics of playing, and how their bodies naturally move. Just think of how far ahead you will be if you do it the natural way now ... rather than later.

We are all built differently, so there are going to be slight variances between all of us. You've got to find the position and grip that works the BEST for you ... which is going to be a natural grip and position.

Most people find that the American grip works the best. This grip is in between the German grip (palms down) and the French grip (thumb on top). Just use whichever one works for you. Your wrist will naturally bend a certain way ... and this is the way you should go with.

Don't contort your body! Stay relaxed!

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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2002, 06:29 AM »

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Simon B
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2002, 03:49 PM »

'Most people find that the American grip works the best. This grip is in between the German grip (palms down) and the French grip (thumb on top)'

How did these grips come to be labelled? Was it really as simple as German drummers being taught predominantly palms down, thumb on top for French?

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