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« on: September 02, 2003, 01:08 PM »

I'd guess that the vast majority of us count regular 16h notes as:   1 E & Ah  2 E & Ah .......


I was taught to count Triplets are follows:

1 Uh Da  2 Uh Da.......

And 16th note triplets as:

1 uh da & uh da  2 uh da & uh da .....

I know it doesn't much matter what sylable one uses, but I know some folks use Trip-a- let  Trip-a-let (or something like that).  I like the way I was taught.

Just curious.
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2003, 01:11 PM »

I always count triplets as One and ahh Two and ahh Three and ahh...
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2003, 01:20 PM »

I'm in the trip- a- let camp.
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2003, 01:27 PM »

I'm a  1 da duh 2 da duh man
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2003, 01:32 PM »

one tee tah two tee tah

one ta ta two ta ta

one and uh two and uh

I think I was taught a couple others also

the vowels were always more consistant than the consanants I suppose.
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2003, 01:44 PM »

I was taught:  1-la-lee, 2-la-lee, etc. or
1-la-lee, & la-lee, 2-la-lee, & la-lee, etc.

Kind of a similar approach to the Eastman school counting system.
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2003, 01:47 PM »

I was taught to count them 1-trip-let, 2-trip-let  etc.
In elementary school it's Blue-ber-ry, blue-ber-ry...to perform triplet rhythms until they have the math skills to intellectually understand that the beat can be divided into 3.  Then I use 1-trip-let.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2003, 05:58 PM »

1-trip-let-2-trip-let.  It seems easier for me to count this was, especially on a shuffle where it would be let-1 -- let-2 -- let-3
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2003, 07:55 PM »

I use "One - and- ah- Two- and -ah...". It is much easier to say in your head because its just a single sound and it keeps with the "1e+a2e+a..." sound. Although sometimes I can get them mixed up because they are TOO easy to pronounce, or I might throw in an "E" sound out of habit.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2003, 11:01 AM »

One and ah Two and ah Three and ah... I also say "set" and "lev" instead of "seven" and "eleven."

I was taught to count 16ths as "One ee and ah Two ee and ah..."
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2003, 12:28 AM »

One and uh Two and uh Three and uh.

But now I count'em One . . Two . . Three . .  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2003, 04:04 AM »

I would recommend not using "Ah", "and ", or "E" to count triplets because you use those to count 16ths.
Shouldn't eighth note triplets be called twelfths, twelve notes in a 4/4 measure
and quarter note triplets should be called thirds?
Wouldn't five quarter notes be called a fifth and would that open us up to alot of "fifth" jokes?
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2003, 05:15 AM »

Wherever you find four drummers, you'll always find a fifth!!! Grin
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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2003, 05:18 AM »

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I would recommend not using "Ah", "and ", or "E" to count triplets because you use those to count 16ths

I'm with you on that.  I think maybe that might have been the initial purpose of this thread.  I never understood why one would teach the same syllable for different notes.

Oh well,

1 e & Ah  Al-Li-Ga-Tor  3 E & Ah  Al-Li-Ga-Tor
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2003, 03:35 PM »

I count them "one-and-a-two-and-a..." I think that way is fine, and I never get it confused with counting sixteenth notes. "one-and-a..." seems to roll off the tongue better than any of the other ways, too.
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2003, 07:42 PM »

Scott ... that IS the Eastman Counting System for triplets ... no relation to the Eastman School of Music by the way, if anyone was wondering.

1 la li  2 la li  3 la li  4 la li

I usually use this method the most, but since I come in contact with all types of individuals ... I just use what works for others.

The beautiful thing about the Eastman Counting System (which by the way has been discussed before ... try searching the database), is that it provides a nice way to count sextuplets or sixteenth-note triplets in 4/4 ... which would be like this:

1 ta la ta li ta  2 ta la ta li ta  3 ta la ta li ta  4 ta la ta li ta

It all flows off the tongue very easily, which makes speed counting a breeze.
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2003, 09:39 AM »

I was taugt the way Felix counts too..
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2003, 11:22 AM »

I was taugt the way Felix counts too..

me too.  
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2003, 11:40 AM »

notch me in on the  "tri - pa - let"  team  Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2003, 02:14 PM »

I personally think it's not wise to count triplets as:

1 and uh  2 and uh

the reason ......

These are the same syllables used for counting sixteenth-notes. Unless it is spoken in perfect time, someone might confuse the triplets, which you mean to say, for an eighth-note followed by two sixteenth-notes. As an adult you may not find this confusing, but for a child or beginner ... it can be confusing. It's bad enough that the English language has multiple words that sound the same, and yet are spelled and mean two very different things ... let's not make matters worse.

Counting isn't just for your own practice. I have had rehearsals where other musicians ask me how a particular rhythm goes. Being able to communicate in a precise manner definitely has it's advantages. Even if someone doesn't know how to use the various syllables to count, you'll start confusing them as you try to explain something ... if you don't stay consistent.

In fact, just this past week, while recording in Hawaii, I couldn't get a straight answer about a figure that the director wanted the band to play. I was trying to ask if he wanted real quarter-note triplets or if he wanted Nashville triplets. The first being counted 1 li la  2 li la and the latter being counted 1 uh and  2 uh and. This is because a standard quarter-note triplet has three evenly spaced notes, while a "Nashville triplet" is really two dotted-eighth-notes followed by an eighth-note. I played and sang the rhythm ... but some of the musicians could not hear the difference ... which was bad enough ... but if I had used the same syllables for both examples, it would have been EVEN WORSE! Needless to say ... we got it after a few moments.

So count how it works for you, but do realize that the skills you develop now WILL come into play further down the road. You never know when you'll be asked to explain or demonstrate something.
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