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I want to see what others come up with before I dare to put up an answer to my own question. I just want to see what different peoples ideas are on what a rumba is. I'm sure I'll be hearing from at least a few folks on this one  |
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2003, 12:52 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2003, 12:57 PM » |
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<SaturdayNightLive> It's a dessert topping! No, it's a floor wax! No, it's a dessert topping *and* a floor wax! </SaturdayNightLive> |
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2003, 01:25 PM » |
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Thats what I thought it was, but I was afraid to say it out loud! Dessert topping and floor wax, exactly
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2003, 02:09 PM » |
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For me, when the band turns around and says "rumba" (which is quite common in the middle of a blues shuffle), the first things I think of are the 2 even hits on the tom at the end of every bar and the syncopated ride pattern. For example, if you were counting "1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and", and hitting the snare on the "2", then you would hit the tom on the "4 and", incorporating an alternating 8th/16th note syncopated ride pattern (like ding-dadading-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding...your tom will hit at the same time as the last 2 dings. Also cool cuz you can accent with the bell).
Now go back to the shuffle!
I'm still trying to figure out the align code fxn...otherwise I'd write it out!
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2003, 02:16 PM » |
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While I do beleive that this is a rumba, I'm really looking for more specifically percussion and not drum kit stuff. But everything is interesting and adds to the whole picture. Thanks for the input!
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2003, 02:46 PM » |
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I'm really looking for more specifically percussion
okay, using the same rhythm, (for example) implement shakers instead of the ride. And hit both notes of the "4 and" on the high conga instead of tom. And, instead of the snare hit the low conga. And instead of the bass hit the cowbell pedal.  |
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2003, 03:25 PM » |
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A rumba is an informal "get-together" combining African drumming and Spanish or African vocal traditions with improvised dancing and singing. Rumba also refers to the rhythms played at these gatherings ... which is basically the secular drum and vocal music of urban Cuba.
Variations include the columbia, the guaguanco and the yambu. This form consists of African-based drumming, singing, and dancing with mostly Spanish vocals. The rumba (or rhumba) of the 1930s dance craze is closer in style to a bolero.
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2003, 03:38 PM » |
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Thanks Bart. You da man I'm liking hearing all these kit thingies applied to rumba though. I've been taking lessons for a while from this guy in Rollinsville, CO. He's been to cuba several times, studied with master drummers there as well as attending workshops here. His name is Dave Lyons. This is where I'm basing my most recent knowledge. We are developing a really good group of rumberos here in the Colorado front range area. Of this group I would consider myself one of the baby beginners. I've been playing for 12 years on hand percussion, but have just started delving into the world of real Cuban Folkloric style. Windhorse is also a member of this study group and a friend of mine. We are both looking forward to continued learning. BTW, did you check that link I put up a little higher?
Lots of good info and recordings on video and cd!
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2003, 08:40 AM » |
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in a nut-shell it's a Jam session
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2003, 12:09 PM » |
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I am like such a total gringo. I thought it was a kind of 3/2 clave.
Man I love Latin drumming. I think it is awesome, but I'll darned if I know anything about it. It's one thing to read a pattern, it's another to play the stuff musically.
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2003, 01:53 PM » |
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My doctor says it's bad for my blood pressure if my mind is blown for more than five minutes at a time.
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2003, 07:15 AM » |
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Here's a few different clave to play on different rumbas:
rumba guaguanco: x - - x - - - x - - x - x - - - (this is the one most people recognize as rumba clave. If someone asks for rumba clave, this is what you play.)
rumba yambu: x - - x x - - x x - x - x - - -
rumba columbia: x - x - - x - x - x - -
rumba tonada: x - x - x x - x - x - - (tonada is a pretty obscure form of rumba, I've been told it's played by some of the older rumberos because the parts are pretty slow and simple)
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I've been told that rumba is from cuba, and rHumba with an h can be from haiti, new orleans, or a few other places I cant remember right now. Does anyone have any insight on this?
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2003, 06:54 PM » |
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A caribbean hotel ?
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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2003, 09:29 PM » |
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I'm not sure but I know that it always starts with some dapper gray haired guy saying "Let's get ready to Rummmmmmbaaaaaaa" And then the crowd cheers. |
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2003, 10:07 PM » |
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"Pick a rumba from one to ten." - Groucho
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2003, 07:37 AM » |
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congueros who get together to play drums and drink RUM!  |
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2003, 03:08 AM » |
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Dogs go rumbark
cows go rumbmoo
wait for it......Sheep go Rumba.
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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2003, 03:06 PM » |
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and mice go squeak squeak squeak ... squeak squeak!
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