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Author Topic: When Grooves Get Stale???  (Read 1542 times)
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ritarocks
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2003, 09:08 PM »

If a specific groove gets stale, I try to switch it up and experiment.  Like reverse the accents, or play the ride on the off beats, or add an open hat, or vary the bass pattern, or add a couple of accent notes on the ride bell, or switch from crossing over to open-handed working the weaker hand, etc.  But most of all, I've found playing with as many people as I can and listening to as much music as I can jumpstarts a stale groove.  Especially multi-percussive bands like Santana, Al DiMeola, etc. who have so much going on that it stimulates my brain to break down all the different parts and apply fresh, unique grooves to basic patterns.  The opposite of stagnation has got to be inspiration!

When you think your groove is stale and you have learned a lot of different ones, listen to the everyday sounds around you.  Check out a copy machine or a vending machine and think about the groove it is laying down.  There is so much out there to learn from.    

I'm surprised you didn't say add more cowbell!
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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2003, 07:44 AM »

I'm surprised you didn't say add more cowbell!
How in the world did I miss that opportunity?  Yeah, what Rita said!
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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2003, 07:59 AM »

all of these ideas are great, but also try setting a part of ur practice time to figuring out new stuff to play, like something with a completely different feel to it, i spend most my practices just writing random piece after random piece trying to make everything as varied as possible,

also learn new rudiments, i started to find that when i varied something it would come out based around a paradiddle, so i started learning some new rudiments and then making variations on those rudiments etc, i find that really helps

also try watching some other drummers you know play, i often find i get a lot of fresh ideas just watching another drummer play on a table with a pair of sticks, maybe try looking at random objects and thinking what you could drum to describe it,
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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2003, 04:35 PM »

(...) maybe try looking at random objects and thinking what you could drum to describe it,

interesting...  Cool
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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2003, 07:19 PM »

There's this book I saw when I was looking through Guitar Center book selction that looks like a pretty cool book for new grooves. It was titled "Famous Grooves" or something like that, and had around 3 to 7 grooves from 20 or so famous drummers. It looked like a fun book to run through, you may want to check it out for some inspiration.
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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2003, 10:34 AM »

You've already gotten great advice.  I think the "listen to everything" advice is the best.  I'm even trying to get more comfortable with the Rap/Hip-Hop my kids like.  The rhythms and sounds in some of these songs are fantastic (OK, so maybe they're machines in some cases but they're typically danceable, but have a beat that's been turned around in an interesting way).

The other suggestion that worked really well for me is to switch from right hand ride to left hand ride.  Anything that you think is easy will suddenly be different when you flip it around.  Put on some reggae-ish stuff and try left hand on the hi-hat and cross sticking with the right.

Music is a buffet (not Jimmy) and you just have to visit another table.

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ritarocks
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2003, 11:55 AM »

Put on some reggae-ish stuff and try left hand on the hi-hat and cross sticking with the right.

Now we're talkin'! Grin  This is a great opportunity for a lot of new things, like rigging up an additional snare, playing syncopated 16ths (one handed) on the hat straight through and reversing our too common implementation of the upbeat of the 2 and 4, a common symptom of playing straight rock all the time.

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