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« on: September 28, 2003, 05:47 AM » |
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Hello People!!!! i am having a problem tuning my new double bass drumset.... as i carefully tuned my both bass drums in the same time... i still can't have an equal sound and has an equal deepnest between the two bass drums..... if u have any suggests pls. tell me.....
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2003, 04:24 PM » |
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Just to get everything straight, both drums are the same size and both drums have the same weight of heads, right?
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I'm not a particularly slow player, yet I don't play fast. I play half-fast.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2003, 05:17 AM » |
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yup yup! and i don't have any idea how to make my bass drums have deep pouch and a deep pump.... what drumheads do u usually suggest??? remo is pretty good but some that evan is the best.... whats the different of this two brands???
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2003, 05:23 AM » |
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Yeah, I could never get the two kicks on my ludwigs to sound perfectly alike either. Heck, the shells still think they are "trees" so let them settle down a year and in the meantime you can try some different tuning scenarios
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2003, 04:08 AM » |
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haha!!!!!! hehe i see..... thank alot!!! how about tuning the toms to made it sound low and deep??? any idea?
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2003, 02:53 PM » |
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I came to a very odd method when tuning both my bass drums to sound deep and punchy.First off you will probably never get them 100% equal in sound.There is always something that will prevent that.I have a 22"x16" and a 22"x14".For the 22x16 I used a remo weather king with the black dot.And for the 22x14 I just use a plain remo emporer.This is because of the different sizes.Now what I did to get them freaking loud and super punchy is this.I took some insulation foam and warpped the entire inside of the shell with one layer of it.Then I stuffed one pillow in there.I did this to see how they would sound and man are they loud.If you click on the link below I have a pic of the foam that I used and what the inside of my bass drums look like. http://photos.yahoo.com/archxonxfire .I hope this helps you some.. |
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2003, 04:14 PM » |
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Here are a couple pix of my DB set, note the diff bass sizes. I prefer this to the same size drums. http://photos.yahoo.com/dougstiers |
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2003, 04:21 PM » |
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I took some insulation foam and warpped (i hope that was a spelling mistake) the entire inside of the shell with one layer of it. Ian Paice Deep Purple does this.Nice and punchy. FYI...Couldn't find any kick picture and the other link to photo's was M.T  |
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2003, 08:41 PM » |
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yep that was a spelling mistake.I meant wrapped.lol
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2003, 08:43 PM » |
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and try the link now http://photos.yahoo.com/archxonxfire the album was on the private setting as opposed to public. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2003, 05:30 PM » |
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Now what I did to get them freaking loud and super punchy is this.I took some insulation foam and warpped the entire inside of the shell with one layer of it.Then I stuffed one pillow in there. I don't see how doing this could make it "loud" as opposed to open heads. It seems it could give it more punchieness but choking the head also chokes the sound waves that give it volume. Just an observation. |
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2003, 11:53 PM » |
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in all truthfull ness I don't know how it makes the bass drum louder.But I have had my bass drums with everything in there from 4/5 pillows,to just one,to blankets,and I have found that by having the foam and the pillow its really loud.If I go ape crazy and smack down on the pedal really hard ( which is a rare thing ) my bass shakes my rack with its volume.Its nuts.
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2003, 05:55 AM » |
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Your bass drum is probably a lot louder with the foam that it was when you had 4 or 5 pillows inside. If you want it to be really loud take the foam out and use one of thegreat muffled drumheads on the market.
As far as tuning both drums the same that should be no problem if they are both the same size and type of drum with identical heads. If the drums and heads are the same this would be a good time to invest in a tension watch. Having the two drums tuned differently will give you more options with your bass voicing but if you are going for the super fast bass playing then having them the same would work better.
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2003, 08:18 PM » |
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when i use both bass drums i like them to sound completely different. i tune the left one alot higher. i leave on the double bass pedal for the right one if i want to have the same tone. but i think it sounds really cool having the two drums far apart. kind of an odd pulse to the beat, ya know?
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2003, 04:16 PM » |
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... i still can't have an equal sound and has an equal deepnest between the two bass drums...
its possible that your left foot is a bit weaker than your right foot and that could account for some of the difference in sound ..... im using two different size bass drums and i've rigged a left hand double pedal so that i can play both with one foot (right). the 22x14 is fat and boomy, the 20x16 is flat and punchy ....the best of both worlds...at the same time.. |
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