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John H
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« on: May 24, 2002, 02:50 PM »

Hi All
New member here ! Keeping this posting short after just apreciating what the 'reset form' button does to lengthy postings !!!
Just wanted to 'pick your brains'. I have two very old (guess at 40 plus years) Turkisk Ks which are lovely, but not what I want to hear. One is a 15" medium crash, the other a 18" thin crash, I have heard they may be sought after, but who do I ask for a valuation... a dealer? I don't think so Wink
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2002, 04:39 PM »

Hey John  -  If you're interested in letting those Old K's go I'd suggest E-Bay.  I check in regularly and have found the vintage K's (in good condition)  always go for a small fortune....sometimes in excess of $1000.00USD.   If you let the collectors compete for them there, you're bound to get what they're worth.  I'd put them on the auction block for 10 days (the longest time possible).  
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2002, 05:58 PM »

I've got a old Turkish K as well ... 16 inch, medium weight crash. You know where it is?

It's hanging on my wall in my studio because I made a clock out of it! TRUTH!!!  Grin

The rest of the story is that there is a hairline crack, about 1.5 inches around a portion of the bell. It's minute, but any play would bound to ruin it completely ... so I just have to enjoy it from afar.
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2002, 01:17 AM »

Thanks Peter
I will try that, I have not even seen the e bay yet. Only heard about it via a car e group I am a member of.
Just traded in an old 20" avedis for a 21" Sabian HHX dry ride... Ve-ery nice pure sound without any nasty unwanted 'build up' and good bell sound too...
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2002, 03:24 PM »

Hi Bart
Hey you would be surprised what 'stick' those old Ks will actually take! I have another one with a similar 'war-wound' which I have thrashed unmercifully in the past (weak and puny is now my strength)! I still gig it occassionally and that crack has still not developed at all. I suppose a crude repair would be to drill at the end of the crack to stop it developing. I have often wondered if it's poss. to braze these things up?
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2002, 03:30 PM »

I have absolutly no idea but I wonder if a BRAZE would not work free and rattle with all the vibration(massive range a cymbal goes through) that a cymbal produces.

Would it not also act as a frequency dampner in the area of the "fix".

I have NO experience with this problem but I was just thinking aloud or should I say, typing aloud....
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2002, 06:46 PM »

Well, there's no way to repair my cymbal; the hairline fracture is around the bell ... and is currently not visible to the naked eye ... but it's there.
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2002, 04:44 PM »

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Iv'e no idea either, if this 137 year old Turkish guy who made this cymbal is still around, he'd know...
But I suppose he is now building personal computers Wink
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