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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2004, 08:00 AM »





oof. i forgot the question already.  Grin



i use all parts, and sometimes turn the stick around and hit with the butt. i really like that sound. thick and monstrous.


for certain tunes, i alternate between the bead and the shaft, using a 'rocking' wrist motion, or as my old teach used to call them, 'rockin' 16ths'. it sounds really cool, especially against a full electric guitar with a little flanger added it.



this is the nice thing about drums. you can pretty much do what you want to do and play how you want to play [within reason], so long as it sounds good.



but a funny note on this: we were watching some old video of us, and i saw that i used to keep my right crash cymbal way the heck off to my right side, like almost at 4:00. i suppose at the time i had a rational reason for doing it, but it made absolutely no sense ergonomically, AND you couldn't hear the cymbal worth a dang.


but i guess that's why they say ignorance is bliss. Wink
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2004, 12:07 PM »

You can also use the shoulder of the stick on the top for an overdrive hat sound lol

Hippie I use that technique/style alot (downbeats=shoulder edge / upbeats=bead top)
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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2004, 12:16 PM »

Allover. Tip, shoulder, shaft, bell, bow, underneath, etc...

depends on what sound I want.
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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2004, 01:18 PM »

Allover. Tip, shoulder, shaft, bell, bow, underneath, etc...

depends on what sound I want.
There ya' go.
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2004, 02:02 PM »

The way that sounds the best.  When I'm playing eighth notes or just about everything I have a pretty bad habit of using the moeller technique on quite a bit of what I play (so they sound more like quarters).  On the really "straight" feeling stuff I'll keep my playing technique consistent (bead or shoulder) but usually every second note I'm playing with the one hand is not as heavy as an accent.  I CAN accent the 2nd note with the proverbial "forearm throw-finger pull techniques" but if I'm just cruising, playing a run of the mill ride pattern, the first note of my ride patterns are a little more pronounced than the second.  No biggie, I just learned that it can make your groove "feel" better using this technique.  YMMV
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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2004, 02:09 PM »



Allover. Tip, shoulder, shaft, bell, bow, underneath, etc...

depends on what sound I want.


There ya' go.






hey is it just me, or does that sound a little kinky?

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« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2004, 09:14 AM »

hey is it just me, or does that sound a little kinky?
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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2004, 12:01 AM »

as this thread showed, there's a huge variety of ways.

but lately, i've been relying on the "shank o' the stick" hihat sound.  love that fat hihat sound for a laid back easy groove.
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« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2004, 07:17 AM »

Mostly the tip of the stick about an inch from the edge of the HH. I do, how ever, use the butt end to ride the edge depending on what I'm playing. Some rock calls for a louder, stronger sound and you use what ever it takes to deliver the goods.
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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2004, 04:02 PM »

What a great topic and great responses.  I use the bead, shaft and butt of the stick and strike different areas of the hats, depending on the sound I want.  As with all the different sound-sources in an acoustic kit, there is a huge range of sounds you can produce with the hihats.

Stewart Copeland made some beautiful noise on the hats with the Police.
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« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2004, 04:31 AM »

Both with every combination in between, also between the hats sometimes.
now that is a new one for me, i gotta try that
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« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2004, 09:50 PM »

Steve Smith does some amazing hi hat solos on his new DVD.  Much of it was learned from the ooooooooold timers.  Great stuff

He plays the top cymbal the bottom cymbal, shaft shoulder bead butt........ plays the hihat stand too rofl.   uses one hand to aid in closing the hats as well as mute the cymbals, while playing the bottom hat with that same hand using traditional grip.   I have been playing for about 20 years and never saw anything like that.  Not that 20 years is a particularly long time, but it was the largest range of sounds I ever heard from one hihat.  Worth a peek if want to see some of the potential of the hats.  He also shares some of his tricks by explaining and playing slowly.
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