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« on: November 16, 2003, 09:55 PM »

up until a few weeks ago i didn't realize the beat that enjoy the most is a "linear groove."  since noting that i've gone on to far more complicated ones.  
i play them because i enjoy them and play set for enjoyment only.

 how do you use them and how often?
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2003, 11:03 PM »

Personally, I use them a lot ... not really thinking when or when not to use them as much as just playing what is appropriate and feels right for the music. It's to the point of being second nature, much as my use of ghost strokes, etc.

It's kind of like using new vocabulary words. Once you learn the uses and meanings, you don't really focus on when or when not to use specific words ... you just communicate your thoughts in the moment ... it's now just part of who you are.
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2003, 01:41 AM »

It's kind of like using new vocabulary words.
Obviously a vocabulary I never learned. LOL
What is a 'linear groove'?
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2003, 06:11 AM »

A linear groove is basically a groove where no two instruments (hands, feet) play on the same beat.

Simple example:

BD: counts 1 and 4
SD: counts 2 and 4
HH: off beats (the "&" of each beat).

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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2003, 06:15 AM »

Obviously a vocabulary I never learned. LOL
What is a 'linear groove'?

Check out my 5-Minute Lessons, more specifically the article entitled Drumming Terms. I've defined it there, with examples.

http://www.drummercafe.com/education/5-minute-lessons/;action=display;threadid=2784
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2003, 06:02 PM »

I LOVE linear groves.  I only use them when they are appropriate but try to include them in, not all, but a lot of what i write.  You can add so much expression and get so busy, they're great  I remember the first one i learned, it was the verse beat in 'got the life' by korn.  
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2003, 06:37 PM »

Rick Latham has a couple of great books on linear playing. He is into "voice" displacement. Like a lot of books, you can play each of his excercises in a variety of ways. I still go through his stuff to this day just for "conditioning" and trying think differently when I play. Go here: http://www.ricklatham.com/ to learn more.

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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2003, 07:25 AM »

yah, I'm going thru Gary Chafee's "Linear Time Playing Funk & Fusion Groove for the Modern styles" AGAIN.  Amazing how much I've forgotten.

Great stuff...It's amazing how similar these patterns "look" but how different each one sounds.  I'm going to be trying to fuse these techniques with some clave stuff (I hope- if I can get the time).

Linear playing really has an enhanced "tension" and "release" quality to it.  It's cool stuff.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2003, 07:36 AM »

And you can create your own linear grooves by simply playing favorite groove(s) and eliminating strokes where two or more sound sources occur at the same time. For instance, if your HiHat and Kick drum play on the same beat, try leaving out the Kick Drum on that beat. Then go back and try leaving out the HiHat on that beat. Then go back and mix it up between the two.

I do think that it's easier to work on linear techniques by first working it out on the Kick, Snare and HiHat. As you start to move around the kit, your brain can kind of get 'freaked-out' with all the sound variations. In my younger years, as I was first learning to apply stickings like the Single Paradiddle to the drumkit, I remember how my brain would trip if I got off the HiHat and moved over to the Ride cymbal. Seems silly really, but I've seen many of my students experience the same phenomenon.

So ... keep it simple at first until you feel comfortable.
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2003, 09:41 AM »

very good advice bart.  i did that unconsciously.  just worked it out on hats/snare/kick and then expanded.
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