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Author Topic: which bongos are your favorite? And which should i buy?  (Read 1525 times)
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« on: November 22, 2003, 01:01 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2003, 09:23 PM »

whoah!  you totally read my mind dude!  i was just about to post a topic on this when i saw your thread.  maybe we can get some responses!


(whoah...what a lame thousandth post...  geez! a thousand posts... i think i spend too much time in front of this dumb machine Undecided Wink Grin)
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2003, 09:35 PM »

My favorites would have to be what I own ... LP Generation II Bongos.

If you are budget conscious ... my recommendation would be the Matador bongos. I'm sure some other people will have some great suggestions too ... but that's mine. Also, in my opinion, stay away from Cosmic Percussion; the quality is lacking to the point that you can't get a decent sound out of them (IMO).
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2003, 03:55 AM »

Ill ditto Bartman on that.  Matadors sound good.  LP Generation II sound better.  And cosmic percussion ones make good double flower pots!
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2003, 09:07 AM »

I had no idea that "CP" was "Cosmic Percussion".   Good to know they are one and the same.
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2003, 09:24 AM »

I had no idea that "CP" was "Cosmic Percussion".   Good to know they are one and the same.

In my mind, LP or Latin Percussion (or should I now say Kaman now?) should be ashamed for even making Cosmic Percussion bongos and congas. No offense to anyone who may own them ... but they are useless. Maybe that's harsh, but if you are going to use them for musical purposes (isn't that what bongos and congas are for?), then you should not invest in CP hand drums.

In my experience, Matador makes the best inexpensive bongos and congas on the market.
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2003, 10:37 AM »

thanks for the responses guys. Grin
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2003, 11:39 AM »

Bartman:

What is CP is doing wrong?

Is it the skins they use, or bearing edge, or shell thickness/construction?

My question is: What adds up to a good drum versus a bad one?

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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2003, 12:43 PM »

Bartman:

What is CP is doing wrong?

Is it the skins they use, or bearing edge, or shell thickness/construction?

My question is: What adds up to a good drum versus a bad one?

All of the above.

If you take the head off a CP conga or bongo here's what you'll see.

A thick, rough shell with little or no bearing edge to accommodate a calf-skin head ... and that calfskin head isn't tucked correctly ... just folded over and SEWN!!!

In defense of CP, they are trying to keep the costs down in making a drum that is affordable to customers with little or no money, or who don't want to spend money on a nice set of bongos. Most people don't know the difference, and certainly can't hear the difference ... or they wouldn't buy CP bongos or congas. So what happens? Making this sub-par series of instruments (which many manufactures are guilty of) brings the general public to a lower level of understanding and respect for the instrument. Sound familiar? You could say that about most of the music you hear on the radio!

That's why I like Matador bongos and congas. If you don't have a lot of money, fine. You can get a decent sounding instrument for a fraction of what professional models run. I just think that CP goes too far. They look like bongos and sort of sound like bongos ... but when you compare then to other brands/makes/models ... whoa baby there's a difference.

Don't waste your money on crappy gear. If you can't afford something, save your pennies until you have enough to at least get a decent sounding instrument. It doesn't have to be pro quality, the Matadors aren't, but boy, the sure sound good compared to what you pay for them!

FYI ... I used to own a drumshop ... so some of my experience and opinion is coming from this fact ... and the fact that I've been forced to play on crappy gear provided by churches, schools and even backline companies. Now, when I'm not bringing my own instruments, I now know to be very picky and ask lots of questions.

Perhaps CP has changed over the years; if so, that's news to me. I'm not trying dog anyone who may own CP gear; I just don't think it's a good investment for anyone ... novice or otherwise.
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2003, 07:35 AM »

LP Galaxy's.
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2003, 08:06 AM »

I wish I had a Maynard G. Krebbs signature model.  
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2003, 12:24 PM »

I feel bongo selection depends on kind of music played, how you play, (stand or seated) what you can afford. L.P. is well built but very heavy for seated play as are most all modern "made in Thailand" drums. L.P. heads are durable and sound good (great if you are a great player) but for my taste, their macho head is too thick and their hemra is too thin.  I think for the same price range ,Meinl should be a consideration. Their quality control seems to be good, they use cow skin instead of water buffalo...Their shell contour is like Gon Bop...I play Sol drums oak bongo with a horse hide macho and cow hembra, I love them, the sound is so crisp, very musical comfortable for seated play. I prefer traditional rims for seated play, they weigh less and allow the drums to be closer together. For stand-up gigs I like my pearl-afro set on L.P. stand they have comfort curve rims whiche are helpful when playing standing in front of large percussion set-up as you reach to strike bongo you stand a chance of hitting rim (ouch). I have mule macho skin and a very thick cow hembra (9") on this set.  So basicly my sols get used for more traditional genras, rumba , folkloric,  SON!!! my heavy "Thai" afro-pearls for rock, reggae, etc. there are so many brands now available, bongolandia website displays alot of high end sets also historical photos ......Aloha
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2003, 11:29 PM »

Thanks everyone for your help!!

I'm currently looking into Matador's Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2003, 06:15 PM »

I just bought some 'tycoon percussion' bongos and they're nice i love them. Anyone else try these?
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2003, 01:32 PM »

If you:
A) Can find them and
B) Can afford them

There is no substitute for genuine professional wood drums.  I have original Valje bongos and Gon Bops Mahogany Congas which have stood the test (and sound) of time ever since I bought them in the late 50's.

Once you have played (and heard) pro wood drums, you'll never forget them.

That's my opinion anyway (see A & B).
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2004, 07:34 PM »

THIS SUX!!!!!  I just got some bongos and came on here to see what you all have to say about them and see if I could get any tips about how they're played and things like that

Then I read Bartman's thread about the CP bongos and realized I HAVE CP BONGOS!!!!! So MY BONGOS SUCK!!!! lol

I really have nothing to compare them to but it just sux that I didn't look into it more before I went and bought them....oh well
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2004, 08:14 PM »

 Hands down (pun INTENDED),   L.P. is the way to go.
No CP, Matador, etc.   save a while if you need but the
tone and construction of LP is unsurpassed.   At one time or another Iv'e owned them all. and will settle for no less then LP anymore.

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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2004, 11:39 AM »

I own a pair of CP congas (q & c). Bought them when my band was offered a weekly coffeehouse gig. I'll have to agree that now that I can play most everything in my band's repertoire on the congas and bongos, I'm now looking at upgrading to at least the LP Aspire congas (i have Aspire bongos mounted to a Gibraltor stand).

But, I really like my CP's. Gotta admit that I need to tune em up every second song at least until we're into the 2nd set - so that gets annoying.

Also, the red metallic color is very attractive on stage. And let's face it, aside from those of us that actually play percussion (which you'll have to admit is very tiny, even among the drummer population), who the hell is gonna notice the difference between a CP conga and a Galaxy Giovanni? Especially when you have two other guitarists, a bass player, and a sax player waiting stage-left for his solo?

Let's face it people, 98% of the people in the audience didn't come to hear the drums or percussion. But 100% of the people would notice if the drummer or percussionist couldn't play.

Sorry 'bout that rant. *soapbox off*

By the way, I love this site!!

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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2004, 02:11 PM »

I own Matador bongos, with the dark wood finish... they look and sound great, and you can tune them up tight if you want... I love em!  I know one drummer that used to play them with sticks at clubs, as part of his normal drum kit.  Sounded nice.

I've used my Matadors (with LP heads) on short film soundtracks, and got years of compliments!  Then sound nice, feel good on the hands, they record well, etc.   Be sure you can tune the bongos.  Any drums you can't tune get on my nerves almost within the hour!

Someone told me Matador is owned by LP, but I can't verify this... could be a music-store-clerk-lie.
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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2004, 10:03 PM »

YES, Matador is a line produced by LP, its a series that employs most the features of the higher end LP line but cuts a few corners here and there and keeps the price a bit lower then the LP Galaxy  or Generation series.  Matador is a nice product at a fair price.
I have a set of these which I took the calfskin heads off and replaced them with x-ray film. I can beat them with sticks from now till doomsday and they never break or even go out of tune.  The high end is amazing.  My Gen II only get calfskin heads and never get played with sticks.
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