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« on: November 26, 2003, 12:17 PM » |
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Okay, here's a confession: I don't own a single Rush album. I just could never stand Geddy Lee's voice. I've heard a lot of their music over the years, and am definitely familiar with Neil Peart, whom I respect but don't worship. I've taught about a hundred drummers to play Tom Sawyer, and will readily admit that NOBODY can do the stick throwing thing like Neil. But I've never been captivated by him, instead preferring the fusion drummers I grew up listening to, when I want a fix of some big-kit drumming. But in an effort to keep up with the Cult of Neil  , I'm asking for recommendations: What CD represents Neil's best work, in your opinion?I'll buy ONE. That's all. I don't want to risk a Geddy overdose, so I'll buy the one that is most highly recommended. So, here's the deal: you're a Rush fan, and you're on a desert island, with a boombox and an endless supply of D-cells, and ONE Rush CD. Which one will it be?
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2003, 12:41 PM » |
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"Moving Pictures"
It probably has more to do with the release date (year) of that album more that anything. I was really becoming "proficient" as a drummer around then, so needless to say I learned every note of that record.
It may not be THE best, but it has many essential RUSH elements to me, that go along with the "teenage flashback" qualities it hold for me.
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2003, 12:50 PM » |
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Do you know how hard this is for a Rush freak such as myself? Anyway, I would say that my favorite studio album would be A Farewell to Kings, but if stuck on a desert island, I would probably opt for one of the live recordings as they have a smattering of everything. My favorite of the live ones would be "Different Stages" as it contains 3 cds, two from the "Test for Echo" tour in 1996 and one from the Hammerstein in London from 1978(my fav of the 3) It's a fair representation of most of their work and of course one of Neils famous drum solos that I can't seem to get enough of. If I absolutely was forced to pick one, that would be the one. Glad to see you're finally giving in!! 
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2003, 01:10 PM » |
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I'd have to agree that Moving Pictures was (IMHO) Neil's and the band's best work. Creative and very easy to get in to. I can see the Red Barchetta in my mind by the words from the song! A great story! Lyrically it's by far their best. It's hands down MY favorite RUSH album.
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2003, 01:21 PM » |
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I'll 2nd ChefDoug. Different Stages has it all, from "Tom Sawyer" to a FULL version of "2112", the drum solo, some of the newer stuff. Then you get the old cd from 1978 with all the REALLY old stuff like "Bastille Day", "Anthem", "By-tor & the Snowdog" and "Cygnus X-1". It's a well-recorded album, the crowd isn't overbearing (like on the new "Rush In Rio" offering...those crazy Brazillians  ) and it contains a good retrospective of their career.
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2003, 01:27 PM » |
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That's a toughie... 2112 or Permanent Waves.... gaw!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2003, 01:36 PM » |
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I hear you, I hear you, I hear you. Geddy's voice is not an easy thing to deal with.
I bought my first Rush CD in 1989 after reading a billion stories in Modern Drummer, etc. about Neil. I played it once and didn't play it again for months.
Flash forwad about 2 years, and I owned every CD.
Geddy's voice is not an easy thing to accept quickly. For people with Geddy-phobia, I recommend newer Rush stuff. He hasn't been singing as high as he got older.
The problem is you won't get the all out super crazy Neil Drumming on the newer stuff. When I say newer, I'm talking like late 80's & beyond.
Darnit man - I can't pick just one CD. I'm thinking maybe Grace Under Pressure for a good combination of lots of notes with great lyrics. Oh man, maybe Permanent Waves.
(My personal favorite is Presto, but you won't be floored by the drumming on there - but you'll like the fact that Geddy doesn't scream).
This is too difficult of a task - I don't think I'm up to it afterall.
I think it's cool that you're willing to buy one. Many people are pretty die-hard anti-Rush.
To me the last few CD's are sort of like Peter Gabriel CD's - where I'll constantly find super subtle things about the songs that simply amaze me.
With their older stuff, I was more amazed by blantantly obvious crazy chops stuff.
You asked for Neil's best work. Considering he writes the lyrics as well, I can't answer that questions.
Best lyrics: New Stuff. Best drumming: Circa late 80's
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2003, 02:06 PM » |
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Depends on if you want Neils older style of drumming or his modern drumming style. I have been a big fan of RUSH my first album was 2112 and I saw the concert that year as well. My favorite album is "A Farewell to Kings" the songs "Xanadu" and "A Farewell to Kings" was what I needed in 1977. But, If I were to buy one today to listen to Neil, I would buy either "Presto" for being a very mainstream/popular type album with songs like "Show Dont Tell", "Superconductor" and "The Pass". "Roll the Bones" is another great disc. Very progressive with songs like "Dreamline", "Bravado", "Wheres my Thing" etc.
But, I also like RUSHs newer disk "Vapor Trails" which really showcases Neils newfound style.
Hard one but I would start at the current and work back!
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2003, 02:28 PM » |
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A buddy of mine and I had a similar conversation the other day. Since we're both Rush fans, we decided on Chronicles to be the best overall RUSH experience. One purchase, and 2 CD's of Neil (except on "Working Man").  IMO, this is ALL you'll need.
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2003, 02:29 PM » |
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Im not a huge fan, but I do like 'em. And Id have to go with Exit Stage Left. Essentially Moving Pictures live. And theres one big reason for that. A version of the INSTRUMENTAL (read : no Geddy voice) YYZ thats nearly twice as long as the orginal. As well as the Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, that the others mentioned.
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2003, 03:02 PM » |
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there's always his instructional DVD... runs and hides... 
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2003, 03:13 PM » |
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i'm in a pretty similar situation to yours mr a. except i've NEVER even HEARD them! don't know ANYTHING about them. never heard a single second of any of their stuff. now that you've all died of shock, i'll come by to collect your drums. 
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2003, 04:29 PM » |
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Yikes! Just one you say? @$%#.
I used to enjoy the prog Rush (1975-1978) the most and would always recommend folks buy A Farewell To Kings and Hemispheres, which I still believe are two of their finest albums. There's also the FM rock era (1980-1981) with the big hits "The Spirit of Radio" and "Tom Sawyer." The band found their way into pop territory but are still essentially a hard rock band. The Signals album of 1982 is an interesting turning point for the band, where the keyboards really take centerstage and the band has obviously been listening to way too much Police. Then the band go for full-on 1980s synth rock from 1984-1992. My favorite Rush album is probably Grace Under Pressure (1984) because the songs are all fairly dark with lots of innovative drumming, neat synthesizer atmospheres and, most important to me now, good pop songwriting. I've been dying to do a heavier rock version of "Afterimage" for years. One of these days I'll do it. Anyhow, the 1994-present era features a good smattering of the last two phases of the band, with an effort to make the band a it more organic (less synth-heavy) than the '80s with heavier guitars.
If I were to recommend just one album (not a compilation) I'd have to say the classic is Moving Pictures. There's not a bad song on that album at all. If I were to take only one Rush record to a desert island with me it would be either Signals or GRace Under Pressure. My favorite Neil album? I think is drumming is astonishing on "Losing It" from Signals, or "Anthem" from Fly By Night, or "Freewill" from Moving Pictures. If you gotta go with Neil's best, you have to get Exit...Stage Left.
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2003, 09:50 PM » |
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The heck with Neil, go with Rush's first self titled album with John Rutsey. Joking, although I love that record and his drumming.
I'd have to go with 2112 with Hemispheres a close second. I'm all Moving Pictured out to be honest.
Of course my cousins favorite is Grace Under Pressure so whos to say. Try them all, I have.
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2003, 06:33 AM » |
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Farewell To Kings
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2003, 08:07 AM » |
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I'll say Moving Pictures ... which I think was his peak, as far as defining who he is. Anything prior to that album is great too ... such as Permanent Waves (1980) and Hemispheres (1978). If you go too far back, you won't get the full monty. I do agree that 2112 (1976), All The World's A Stage (1976) and A Farewell To Kings (1977) are all great albums as well ... and are definite favorites among the diehard Rush fans!
I can remember being so dissappointed with Power Windows (1985), although I liked some of Signals (1982). Roll The Bones (1991) is the last album I've heard ... and that was enough (I hated it); I wanted to remember Neal prior to all of this. Just my opinion of course.
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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2003, 11:32 AM » |
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You could also check out Rush in Rio, either DVD or CD. They play about 30 songs including a drum solo. It sounds really good, and the DVD focuses a lot on Neil's playing with different angles (there is an extra feature that has multi angles of him playing on a few songs).
If you wanted an album, I would go with Moving Pictures, but if you were just interested in Neil, I think the DVD would be a better choice. I got it for $22 at Best Buy.
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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2003, 04:42 PM » |
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I actually like Power Windows! I like the second side with "Territories" and "Middletown Dreams" a lot. Roll the Bones is a disappointment and the rest of their '90s and beyond output is hit or miss. I like Counterparts and I think there are some fine songs on there but I completely hated Test For Echo. The new one Vapor Trails isn't so bad either.
And I like John Rutsey's playing on the first record too.
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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2003, 12:12 PM » |
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Hemispheres
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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2003, 07:48 PM » |
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Moving Pictures. Even with Geddy getting less shrill on later albums, I've slowly lost interest since Moving Pictures. I think I listened to the last one only once. Chronicles might be good if you're looking for a "sampler".
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