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« on: June 05, 2002, 07:41 AM » |
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I have a student who is going in the studio this weekend. He has hired me to tune up his drums, and help make sure they sound good before the recording begins. I think I will advise G1's, but I wanted to get some suggestions from you all.
He plays a Tama Starclassic 10, 12, 14. I beleive they are 8X10, 9X12, and 11X14, and the kick is probably 16 or 18X22. Not 100% sure on the depths. Anyway, he will be playing metal, and is a hard hitter. I think clear G1's would be the best choice, but he is worried about having to replace heads during the recording process. Will the G2's be too dead for the studio? And for the kick, I am thinking the EQ3 pack.
The primary snare to be used will probably be a 6.5X14 Pearl Maple Free Floater. I am thinking an Evans Powercenter here.
Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2002, 07:57 AM » |
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I think for metal G1's have a bit too much tone  . I play louder music as well, and I have G2's which are great, just enough tone. Powercenter is good for snare, but for different songs you might want to think of different snares. |
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2002, 08:21 AM » |
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I would worry about being too live for the studio.
I like dead heads for metal...get some clear Aquarian PII's ...tune them on the loose side and get that sticky thud and-
Put the coated g1's on the bottom.
But that could sound like ca ca...I would go for option 2 if I were U.
To me Evans g2's are even light for metal. Why don't you try Hydraulic Glass if you like evans? My friend has a Tama set with those on and those things just flat out POW. Plus they look cool and will mike up live awesome.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2002, 08:41 AM » |
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I play metal and hard rock on a regular basis, and have come up with a pretty good kick "formula" for studio use. I have an Evans EQ2 Batter with an EQ1 Resonant with the Evans EQ Pad Dampening system against the inside of the batter. The batter has an Aquarian Double Kick Impact patch on it and I use Plastic beaters. I tighten the batter and the resonant as tight as I'm comfortable doing and let it sit for a couple of hours. Then loosen completely then re-tighten just until there are no wrinkles. This gives a great low tone, but with the plastic beaters, each stroke is defined perfectly, which is great for Metal and double kick usage. Hope this was of some help.
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2002, 09:29 AM » |
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Well your student is right ... he'll probably have to replace the heads during the session ... and if not, definitely afterwards. Ah ... the price for beating the hell out of your drums.  Seriously though, one needs to play hard in the studio. I don't mean play through the drum, or beat the hell out of it, but definitely play strong and consistent. Single ply heads are always going to sound the best in the studio ... at least for the engineer. To me, it's a given that when you go into the studio you put new heads on ... and after the session, the heads are shot. If this guy is going to record in the studio ... this is just one of the expenses. |
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2002, 09:57 AM » |
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Ok, from what you all are saying, and knowing the "music" his band does, then I am leaning toward coated G2's, for the toms, Power Center on the snare, and the EQ 2 bass.
This ought to be a fun way to earn some much needed $$$
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2002, 10:27 AM » |
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Ok, from what you all are saying, and knowing the "music" his band does, then I am leaning toward coated G2's, for the toms, Power Center on the snare, and the EQ 2 bass.
This ought to be a fun way to earn some much needed $$$
I think that is a very wise decision given the circumstances. |
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2002, 09:24 PM » |
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Ok, from what you all are saying, and knowing the "music" his band does, then I am leaning toward coated G2's, for the toms, Power Center on the snare, and the EQ 2 bass.
This ought to be a fun way to earn some much needed $$$ ...and because it's metal that he's playing, buy two sets! |
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2002, 07:54 AM » |
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Just to let you all know, it went great. The student, band, and engineer/producer were all thrilled with the drumsound I got for them. I ended up going with clear G2's for the tom batters, clear G1's for the tom res, Powecenter on one the 6.5X14 Pearl FF, and a coated G1 on a super sweet drum of the studio's, a 6.5X14 Legend Copper(this is one killer drum!). For the kick, I used a clear EQ3 batter, and a Remo Fiberskyn for the res, with a port hole in the standard 5 o'clock position. I would have rather used an EQ3 res head, but Tommy's was out and he suggested the Fiberskyn. He even cut the hole at no extra cost. Anyway, the drums sounded great. Nice and Huge!!
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2002, 10:33 AM » |
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Awesome man! Glad to hear it went well!  |
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