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Personally I would stay away from calf skin, and Bear/Kevlar heads.  Used heads aren't usually a good bet either.

I also am also unenamored with dots...this week.  I dig aquarian studio x's with a coating in the studio, but really want a pinstripe that sounds good.  I might try some of those force heads Bart has been digging so much lately.  I don't like double thins so much because I like a more focused tone.

I don't like Evans heads for the most part but I havn't played all of them and I don't buy Attack heads cause they are made in Taiwan- and some heads that sound good on one drum/one style, one venue, might stink in another.

You are hitting plastic stretched over a wood tub...get a deal on a "pre-pack" and forget about it.

For a smooth deeper sound I would get pinstripes, aquarian P2's...remo P3's or try coated G2's...double thins are THIN man.

I'll just say to go with the Aquarian Hi-Frequency resonant head. It should help balance the drum since you are going to have a coated two ply head on top.

Unfortunately, the guys are right. You are going to have to experiment and find out what works best for your drums. There are just too many variables involved to be able to say "Use ______ to get this sound."

I have used the Coated Double Thins with the Hi-Frequency on a YAMAHA Recording Custom kit (not mine) with the deeper sized toms. It sounded good ... but definitely had a controlled sound to it. The kit was used on a LIVE recording and was in a box ... basically.

If you don't like the Aquarians, then try Evans.

There is a noticeable difference between the clear and coated Double Thins.

Come to think about it- I don't know diddly about "resonant" or what I like to call the bottom head.

Check this out.

I had been using heavier heads on the bottoms of my toms from mediums to medium dots and I was digging them but didn't know why.

Anyways, I purchased some Aquarian response 2's from an extremely reputable source for use on the bottom.  They (I suppose) are a med. 2 ply but not as heavy as a pinstripe.

The wierd thing was I liked them quite a bit once I got my top head situation squared away but on a 16" floor...well, the thing rang for ever!  I could barely get that head under control without totally choking it.  I had to go with a thin diplomat finally to get the sustain I was looking for without sacrificing the tone I wanted.

So what I think I found out from this was a heavier head can give one a lot of resonance???  I was always from the school where a thin head gives one more resonance on the bottom.  I'm almost thinking the added film weight of the heavier gauge heads creates more enertia and is slower to cease vibrating.

Am I crazy???

hardy har har-har.

so funny I forgot to laugh

WHAT?!   You mean to tell me that not only do you use the Evans Hydraulic heads ... which is the deadest, most cardboard box sounding drumhead on the market ... AND you put a Remo Muffle on as well?!

You're nuts man. We need to change your name from nullify_drummer to nullify_drummer_sound. Why not buy some cardboard boxes or better still find some out back at your local grocery store ... they'll a lot cheaper and sound just as good!

I was going to rag on this guy...had a good one too but I thought I'd let someone else have a shot.

LMAO

Actually you guys are going to thing I'm nuts BUT one of the best/better sounding floor toms I've ever heard was a single headed  Remo CS dot on a  15" Royce drum with a dead ringer stuck underneath it.

I couldn't believe it.

Well, I wasn't trying to make anyone feel "stupid" ... my tone (that I was trying to convey) was more of giving him a hard time and tease him a bit.

I have more comments ... but I'll hold on to those for another thread.