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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2004, 06:55 AM »

hmm...

interesting thought.  cool that felix and mfran mentioned this, cause a friend in one of my bands recently told me my overall sound was too shrill and "cymbally".  at first, i was like, "eh, its just me playing cymbals, so what?"

but, i guess now i know what he means.  besides laying off the plates for a bit, looking for a nice balance, i guess i need to also pay more attention and really listen to what i'm actually playing, rather than just letting my arms fly about.

I'd suggest not so much that you lay off on the cymbals, but that you  make a conscious effort to blend the sounds of the various components of your kit. Don't just hit all the instruments at the same volume and assume that will work. That's a common signpost of an amateur drummer.

On some songs, you may want to downplay the hihat, so that it's felt rather than heard. Your toms may need to be slammed to really articulate. Get to know your kit, and what is required to get the sounds in your head. You may be surprised by the modifications in your technique this will require.

Listen to your favorite CDs - often the bass and snare are far more prominent than the hat or ride. Most inexperienced drummers I've heard play too heavy with the hihat and ride, and could stand to beef up their attack on the bass drum. But that's a sweeping generalization.

I sometimes envision a mixing board, and I'll modify my technique to raise or lower the levels of each drum and cymbal, based on the overall blend I want to achieve. One of the reasons I don't cross my hands when I keep time on my hihat is so that I can maintain independent volume levels for both hihat and snare.

Gadd is probably the best I've heard at blending sounds - some of his ghost note drumming is almost impossible to figure out, because he blends the sounds of the hat and snare to a point where it's hard to tell which instrument he's hitting.

Anyway, you've just discovered another layer to this onion. Keep it up!
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2004, 08:25 AM »

After having broken two crashes, one hi-hat cymbal and two ride cymbals over a three-year period I sat down and really analyzed what I was doing wrong.  

I had a 1970's A medium ride that had keyholed and eventually broke about three inches below the bell.  So when I bought my next ride (a 20" a Custom Projection Ride) I made sure that all of my cymbal stands had plastic sleeves.  Imagine my surprise when I next broke my 18" AA medium crash.  So I duly replaced the cymbal with a brand new one just like it AND put all of my cymbals on the Aquarian springs, thinking that would save me.  I noticed after a couple of months of use I noticed that the ride cymbal spring was creaking a lot.  So I took off the spring and noticed the cymbal was still creaking.  Sure enough, I broke that one too.  Then I took the other cymbal off the spring and, once again, broke the crash cymbal too, and the top hi-hat cymbal (a 14" quick beat top.)  

After wasting hundreds of dollars, I anaylzed how I hit the cymbals and how I mount them.  I noticed that:
A. I used big sticks (2B's)
B. I mounted the cymbals high and flat.
C. I crashed with the shoulder of the stick.
D. I had a very heavy ride hand.
E. I kept my hi-hat clutch very tight.

So I switched to 5A's, mounted my crashes lower at about a 30 degree angle, play the crashes mostly with the bead of the stick, hit the cymbals much lighter, and replaced my hi-hat clutch with a nicer one that stays in place while giving the top hi-hat the opportunity to move.  Almost two years later I've yet to break another cymbal (knock on wood.)  In fact, I've added a second crash, an 18" K dark crash thin that sounds beautiful at low volumes and it's standing up to me!  

Mainly it's been about volume.  I used to pride myself on playing hard and loud, and I can still do that.  I've forced myself to play quieter and my dynamic range is far greater.  So although I've lost some great cymbals this way, I've also learned a lot from the experience.    
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