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« on: January 13, 2004, 05:40 AM » |
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What is this technique of inverted doubles on the double kick.
Dang, there will probably be a double bass forum open soon...
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2004, 06:31 AM » |
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It isn't a technique for the bass drum as I know it, but of course you could apply it on kick. I would get it happening on your hands first.
You know how doubles work right? rrll,rrll,rrll,rrll- right! Piece of cake
Good. I'm not sure if this is the textbook "first" inversion or not but you would play "rllr,rllr,rllr,rllr" as your next inversion of doubles then you would play llrr,llrr,llrr,llrr as your "second inversion" and lrrl,lrrl,lrrl,lrrl as the "third" inversion
I put commas so you could see the groups of 4 easier. When practice these I mark the first note of the 4 note groupings with my hat or kick (1/4 note) and then I run through all the inversions with a metronome. The are cool, especially played as 32nd's.
What I think is easier and kinda more practical is grouping sextuplets as doubles. Don't forget to get those going as well. YMMV
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2004, 11:58 AM » |
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to save me starting a new thread - are doubles on double kicker played rrllrrllrrllrrll? i can hold down singles at about 160-170 bpm, but have read that above that it is easier to play doubles.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2004, 01:14 PM » |
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I find doubles extremely easy, Chris. Yes, It is rrllrrllrrllrrll...
I come down with the whole leg/foot, then "pop" my knee up (thus forcing my toe down) for the second hit.
I can do rolls exceptiionally well, and quite effortlessly, but I have yet to be able to work it into my single kick approach.
All in good time, I've only been doing it for a couple of weeks.
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2004, 01:24 PM » |
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yeah, i'm relatively new to double kicker. i have no problem playing fast doubles with my right foot (i played single kicker for a long time before buying a double kick pedal) but my left foot is trailing. it's all down to practice, i guess.
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2004, 01:43 PM » |
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yeah, i'm relatively new to double kicker.
LOL ... I'm sorry, but when I hear the term "double kicker" I keep envisioning a two woman chorus line or something.  |
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2004, 01:48 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2004, 03:47 PM » |
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LOL ... I'm sorry, but when I hear the term "double kicker" I keep envisioning a two woman chorus line or something. Funny, I was thinking about an old Disney movie..."GUS" a mule that kicked field goals  |
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2004, 09:54 PM » |
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I actually had the chance to ask Virgil Donati how and why he uses inverted doubles on his kick. He said he uses the slide technique to get doubles on the peadals. When you use the slide technique, the second note of each stroke is a little louder. He inverts the doubles so the louder notes are on 1 and 3 of a four note group. It would sound a little off if the weak beat notes were louder. This theory makes sense to me.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2004, 02:06 PM » |
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