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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2004, 08:21 AM » |
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HHMMM? Three? I'll throw out the following:
1. Rush 2112 - Neil Peart
2. Chick Corea Ackoustik Band, Live in Japan - Dave Weckl
3. Billy Cobham - Warning or Power Play, both are tremendouns IMHO
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The techniques, though they play an important role in the early stage, should not be too restrictive, complex or mechanical. If we cling to them, we will become bound by their limitation. Any technique, however worthy and desirable, becomes a disease when the mind is obsessed with it.
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2004, 10:20 AM » |
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Hmm, three records that totally influenced the way I play would be:
#3 Rush-Moving Pictures, learning Tom Sayer on drums was a challenge to me by a friend9also a drummer) when I was 15, I could barely play drums when I started learing the song, by the time I had learned(what I could play at the time) it, I was getting decent.
#2 Helmet-Mean Time. John Stainer influenced my groove so much, heavy ass music with groove was so innovative when they came out. A great drummer who played to the music, but could pull off some really cool stuff when the time was right, he also played some quick ass quads with no double bass!
#1 Tool-Aenima. Danny is my favorite drummer of all time, even before this record came out in 96. When I heard this record and all the percussive detail that was on it, I was blown away. I still listen to this record, and it sounds fresh, like it was made yesterday.
Honarable mention goes to Tim Alexander, innovative to the core. Also Carter Beauford, utterly smooth and amazing. David Silveria for making some of the sloppiest drumming(the first Korn record) sound so goddang cool. And Abe Cunningham of the Deftones, shear brilliance in simplicity, monsterous groove.
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2004, 10:30 AM » |
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speaking of Art Blakey, I've always known he was a jazz "master", but I never really listened to any of his records, with "A Night in Tunisia" being my first Blakey purchase a few weeks ago...and I was totally blown away. Could someone out there please point me to another fine example of Mr. Blakey's work? Otherwise, I'll have to buy every Blakey CD I can find! Deanzo, I have a gem of an Art Blakey album for you... You know how everyone agrees about how great Miles Davis's 1959 recording Kind Of Blue is? Well, one year before that album, in 1958, Miles made another great album with sax player Cannonball Adderly, and Art Blakey. This album is said by some to be kind of a precursor to Kind Of Blue, in fact there is a version of Autumn Leaves on there that is frighteningly perfect, and would fit on Kind of Blue very nicely! Anyway, rumour has it that Miles was still under contract with some other record label, or would have had to wait to release it or something, because he was about to switch labels to Columbia with Kind of Blue, I've heard several stories---- whatever reason, the album was released not as a Miles Davis album, but as a Cannonball Adderly album, called Somethin' Else. Art Blakey drums, Miles on trumpet, Cannonball on sax. Get it! info here: Somethin' Else |
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2004, 10:35 AM » |
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Miles Davis - "Milestones" - Philly Joe Jones' jazz chops are awesome.
Steve Morse - "The Introduction" - Love playing along with Rod Morgenstein. Couple of tunes with great double bass workouts.
Barriemore Barlowe - Jethro Tull's "Songs from the Wood" - odd time signatures, complex drumming.
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2004, 10:36 AM » |
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for live drumming at its best
Deep Purple - Made In Japan - Ian Paice drums
for the best studio sound and feel ever
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti - John Bonham drums
For great surf drumming, surprisingly ahead of & behind its time:
The Ventures - On Stage - Mel Taylor was kickin it man!
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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2004, 10:41 AM » |
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There is NO WAY I can pick just 3. Oh well, off the top of my head, 1st 3 that come to mind that totally inspire me:
1. Jeff Beck "Blow by Blow"
2. Santana "Moonflower"
3. Al Dimeola "Anthology"
The first two are two of my favorites of all time as well. I don't have Al Dimeola's "Anthology", but I have "Land of the Midnight Sun" on which (if I remember correctly) Alphonse Mouzon does some tasty drumming. |
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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2004, 11:22 AM » |
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mfran - I'm not too sure about yer info there. I don't see how SOMETHING ELSE can be seen as a "precursor" to KIND OF BLUE since the whole approach is entirely different - playing through harmony rather than static modes. Plus, you're looking at a hard bop rhythm section _Hank Jones, Sam Jones (who would later play with Cannonball and Nat and Louis Hayes in Cannonball's sextet) and Blakey. Not exactly a model of sensitive interaction.
The story I had always heard was that Miles was doing his buddy a favor by appearing on his record, not that they needed to release it under somebody else's name. The first record on Columbia was ROUND ABOUT MIDNIGHT (Red, PC and Philly Joe), if anything can be considered the "precursor" to KOB, it would probably be the next record (again for Columbia) 58 SESSIONS (or even the LIVE AT THE PLAZA). ROUND is pretty squarely in the same mold as SOMETHIN ELSE, very straight ahead, hard swinging and blowing on changes.
If this was something Prestige had in the vault that had been under Miles leadership I feel it woud have had the rhythm section that he was working with and with the repertoire (and arrangements) the band was doing at the time (since the personnel, tune list and arrangements don't change on the live recordings from the period).
Just my opinion.
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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2004, 01:13 PM » |
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Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power (Vinnie Paul on drums)
Deep Purple - Made in Japan (Ian Paice)
Steve Vai - Alien Love Secrets/Sex and Religion (Terry Bozzio on both I believe)
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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2004, 02:59 PM » |
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Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power (Vinnie Paul on drums)
Deep Purple - Made in Japan (Ian Paice)
Steve Vai - Alien Love Secrets/Sex and Religion (Terry Bozzio on both I believe)
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« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2004, 09:44 AM » |
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list is always changing (at the moment)
1) Jun Fukamachi "JF & the NY all stars live" drums Steve Gadd...some of Gadd's best playing and topped off by one of Steve's most mind boggling solos.
2)Led Zeppelin "Zeppelin 1" in my opinion Bonhams best drumming.
3) Brand X "unorthodox behaviour" drums Phil Collins, a most underrated drummer (but this album would change anyones mind) top notch fusion drumming.
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« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2004, 11:25 PM » |
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Today, it's:
John Scofield - Groove Elation (Idris Mohammad
Pharoah Sanders - Save Our Children (Trilok Gurtu, Zakir Hussain
Little Feat - Hoy! Hoy! (Richie Hayward, Sam Clayton)
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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2004, 02:11 AM » |
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Re ... Art Blakey "The breeze and I" 1999 "A day with Art Blaky 1961" Re... Influential albums 3!  Deep Purple, all albums, drummer Ian Paice Patty Smyth, self titled album , drummer Kenny Aronoff Joan Armatrading, Me Myself I album ,drummer Anton Fig |
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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2004, 07:18 AM » |
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I think Im goin too cheat....
Red Hot Chili Peppers....Mothers Milk through By The Way (Chad Smith)
Miles Davis...Kind of Blue (Art Blakey)
Tool...Undertow, Anemia, Lateralus (Danny Carey)
Police...Ghost in the Machine (Stewart Copeland)
Dredg...Leitmotif, El Cielo (Can't remember his name) Highly reccamend very cool
Soul Coughing..Any album
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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2004, 07:38 AM » |
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I hear you, kohei, if you analyze the approach to solos and such, Somethin Else and Kind of Blue are not the same. However, I can't help feeling like Autumn Leaves smacks of what Miles would do the following year. Somethin' Else was only a year before Kind Of Blue, and some say it sounds like Miles was getting ready to explore some of the bold and subtle modal textures he would give us in 1959 with KOB. Although the track "Round Midnight" has a mellow sound, and in my opinion would fit on Kind Of Blue too, that album was recorded in 1955 and released in 1956, whereas Somethin Else was 1958. I forget where I read about the contractural thing, about Miles deciding to release it under Cannonball Adderly's banner. May have been the liner notes from some best of Miles Davis album, and I may have remembered it wrong too...
I guess my ideal Miles album (which I have burned on my own cd for my car) would be this:
all 6 tracks from Kind Of Blue, with 4 bonus tracks: Round Midnight (from Round About Midnight), Autumn Leaves (from Somethin Else) , Well You Needn't (from Miles Davis Vol. 1), and My Funny Valentine (from Cookin)
I know they arent done with the same modal approach, but to me they all feel great, that is my favorite jazz album from the 56-59 era.
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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2004, 08:14 AM » |
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When i started playing drums 28 years ago, it was school band. After three years of that, my father introduced me to these three albums, and it became a whole different ballgame for me:
Deep Purple "Machine Head"
Yes "Fragile"
Buddy Rich "Swingin' New Big Band"
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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2004, 09:37 AM » |
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No "Piece of Mind"? My brother has "borrowed" it for over 3 years now... I should buy that again. It's definitely top 5 though. |
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« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2004, 11:50 AM » |
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Today, it's:
John Scofield - Groove Elation (Idris Mohammad
Pharoah Sanders - Save Our Children (Trilok Gurtu, Zakir Hussain
Little Feat - Hoy! Hoy! (Richie Hayward, Sam Clayton)
Another Richie Hayward fan!  Scofield also has a CD out called "Still Warm" where Omar Hakim plays some very tasty stuff. |
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« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2004, 08:19 AM » |
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FUNKADRUMMER - "Miles Davis...Kind of Blue (Art Blakey)"
You got the alternate session or something? KOB is Jimmy Cobb all the way through....
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« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2004, 08:58 AM » |
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Today, it's:
Soundtrack to "Orfeo Negro" (Black Orpheus) - some fantastic batucada from 1958
Incredible! - Joey DeFrancesco. Byron Landham, Frank Wilson drummers (seperate tracks)
Light As A Feather - Return To Forever. Airto Moreira, drums.
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« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2004, 09:24 PM » |
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Jee willikers Bat Man this is a doozie....Wow..can we trun 3 into maybe 10? I guess my three favs would be... PinK Floyd's - Dark Side Of the Moon Rush's - Well anything by Rush...I can never pick with Rush.Thats like asking me to choose a favorite limb.Can't be done. Planet X - Moonbabies And the rest... Dream Theater - ALL THEIR CD'S ( just like Rush,can't choose ) Eric Carr's - Rockology Kiss - The Elder ( Great Album ) Ring Of Fire - Dreamtower ( Virgil Donati is in this as well as Tony MacAlpine...Great band ) Ozzy - The Ozzman Cometh Jadis - Fanatic Aerosmith - Love em all...Another great band with every song ( IMO ) being great... |
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