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« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2004, 03:53 AM »

Metallica "Self Titled - Black"
Silverchair "Frogstomp"
Dream theater " Metroplis"

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« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2004, 09:25 AM »

Today it's:

V.S.O.P. - Herbie Hancock.  Tony Williams, drums

Sakesho - Sakesho.  Jean Philippe Fanfant, drums

Pictures At An Exhibition - Emerson, Lake, and Palmer.  Carl Palmer, drums
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« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2004, 09:57 PM »

From the Wayback machine, it's:
Birds of Fiire -- Mahavishnu Orchestra (Billy Cobham)
Live at Filmore East -- Allman Bros. (Butch Trucks & J.J.Johanson)
Led Zepplin I (I learned to play drums from this one)

Lately it's:
Moonbabies -- Planet X (Virgil Donati)
Lateralus -- Tool (Danny Carey)
Thirteenth Step -- A Perfect Circle (Josh Freese)

Yeh, I'm right there with you Blow by Blow, Moonflower, Al DiMeola Old timers -- You know who I'm talkin' about!
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« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2004, 07:22 AM »

From the Wayback machine....
....Led Zepplin I (I learned to play drums from this one)
Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat  Grin

Bonzo was my "bass drum" inspiration on that album.  I remember first thinking he was playing double-bass on "Good Times Bad Times".  Then I realized it was single and it inspired me to practice fast patterns with one bass drum.  "I Can't Quit You Baby" was another one with a really sweet bass drum pattern.  
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« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2004, 12:07 PM »

wow, 3? that's hard.

anything from Motown (Detroit sessions only)-Benny Benjamin, Uriel Jones, "Pistol" Allen

Superfly Soundtrack-Henry Gibson

Life Time-Tony Williams
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« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2004, 05:52 PM »

Today, it's:

Quiet After The Storm - Diane Reeves ... Billy Kilson, Teri Lynn Carrington, Airto, Luis Conte, drums and percussion.  Kind of hard to focus on the instrumentation here (many other "names" on this), as Ms. Reeves' voice is front and center, which I don't mind one bit - beautiful!

Jeff Beck Group - Jeff Beck Group ... Cozy Powell (RIP), drums.  Some of my favorite Jeff Beck ... this is rockin'!

Oneness - Jack DeJohnette ... Jack DeJohnette, Don Alias, drums and percussion.
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« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2004, 08:19 PM »

Deanzo, I have a gem of an Art Blakey album for you... You know how everyone agrees about how great Miles Davis's 1959 recording Kind Of Blue is?   

Well, one year before that album, in 1958, Miles made another great album with sax player Cannonball Adderly, and Art Blakey. This album is said by some to be kind of a precursor to Kind Of Blue, in fact there is a version of Autumn Leaves on there that is frighteningly perfect, and would fit on Kind of Blue very nicely! 

Anyway, rumour has it that Miles was still under contract with some other record label, or would have had to wait to release it or something, because he was about to switch labels to Columbia with Kind of Blue, I've heard several stories---- whatever reason, the album was released not as a Miles Davis album, but as a Cannonball Adderly album, called Somethin' Else.  Art Blakey drums, Miles on trumpet, Cannonball on sax.  Get it!

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Somethin' Else

I bought that CD based on your recommendation, and while it does swing, I'm surprised you think the drumming is that great. It's the most repetitive drumming I've ever heard Blakey do, as he plays the same beat on most of the songs, with almost no improvisation. He keeps resorting to the cross-stick on 2, and the "4 &" on the rack tom. Frankly I found it pretty boring.

The overall mood of the CD is nice, but I sure wouldn't look to it for inspirational drumming. But that just goes to show, we don't all have the same tastes.   Cool

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« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2004, 07:45 AM »

MFRAN - sorry, lost this for a few days. Miles recorded the SONG Round Midnight on an earlier Prestige recording, but the record titled Round About Midnight (which includes that group's arrangement of the tune Round Midnight) was the first record for Columbia, recorded after Something Else.

It's great that you like the records, but I still disagree with your assessment that SE somehow was the penultimate conceptual step to KOB.
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« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2004, 09:55 AM »

sorry Acrolite, I didnt mean to imply that Cannonball Adderly's album Somethin Else was inspirational drumming, I just thought it was a "gem of an album"  because most people looking for albums by either Art Blakey or Miles Davis might not ever have a chance to stumble upon this particular Cannonball Adderly album.  Thus, when Deanzo was looking for Art Blakey, I thought of Cannonball Adderly and Miles playing with him on this album.

I was lucky enough to hear about Somethin Else off of an old Best Of Miles Davis disc I had, and liked the song "Autumn Leaves" enough to buy the entire album.  I think the mood created by all the musicians as a unit is what draws me to it, not necessarily the drumming by itself.  I am similarly drawn to performance as a whole on "Thursday Night At The Village Vanguard" featuring Art Pepper, Elvin Jones, the whole band is in good form. The drumming is nice, but the gelling of the songs is what draws me.  

I know we got off subject on this thread, for those who wonder, my top 3 drumming albums were these:

for live drumming at its best
Deep Purple - Made In Japan - Ian Paice drums

for the best studio sound and feel ever
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti - John Bonham drums

For great surf drumming, surprisingly ahead of & behind its time:
The Ventures - On Stage - Mel Taylor was kickin it man!



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« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2004, 10:05 AM »

Kohei, I lost this thread too!  Just found it again today.

Just to clarify, I don't think Somethin Else is any penultimate step to Kind of Blue, I was just trying to find something 'close'.  

My own personal quest a while back was to find Miles Davis in a mood, and with musicians, closest to where he was at when he recorded Kind Of Blue.  Since Miles is known for never repeating himself, it is a very difficult task to get close to the feel they had on any particular album.  

I am reminded of what Miles told one of his later sax players: "you know why I don't play ballads any more?  Because I love to play ballads..."  

Miles was THAT conscious of not falling into what he wanted to do, but instead kept pushing for new ground.  Thus Kind of Blue was never repeated in any sense.  Yet, I craved something more like it...

Miles' previous and subsequent Columbia albums '58 Sessions, and Sketches Of Spain are vastly different in mood from Kind of Blue, and all of my research shows that Round About Midnight on Columbia was recorded years earlier in 1955 and released in 1956.

Somethin Else with Cannonball Adderly was recorded in 1958, just a year before Miles Davis's Kind Of Blue in 1959, so I was happy to accidentally find Miles playing on it with a sax great and a top drummer!  Again, just my personal preference.  I was only trying to find another album that was even close to the mood and timeframe of Kind Of Blue, and for me it is Cannonball Adderly's Somethin Else.
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« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2004, 08:12 AM »

Black Sabbath - Paranoid
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« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2004, 08:55 AM »

1. Any Rush album (especially Exit Stage Left... this one got me really interested in percussion).
2. Steve Smith with Vital Information
3. Anything with Steve Gadd.

Honorable mention: The Police and Zeppelin.
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« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2004, 11:17 AM »

My three may not be the best alltime drum records, but they are the ones I listened to the most as a teenager whenI was learning to play and they most influenced my playing.
Chicago Transit Authority - Chicago - Danny Seraphine
Chicago VIII - Chicago - Danny Seraphine
Aloha from Hawaii - Elvis Presley - Ronnie Tutt

Learning to play drumset primarily from Danny Seraphine, I learned to play complex single bass drum patterns and for a long time didn't really get having the bass and kick playing together. Danny is still my favorite drummer, all the power ballad crap notwithstanding. It breaks my heart that he was kicked out of Chicago.
From Ronnie Tutt, I learned to play BIG  Grin It hink Ronnie is (or at least was with Elvis) the hardest working drummer around.
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« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2004, 12:34 PM »

My three may not be the best alltime drum records, but they are the ones I listened to the most as a teenager whenI was learning to play and they most influenced my playing.
Chicago Transit Authority - Chicago - Danny Seraphine
Chicago VIII - Chicago - Danny Seraphine

Danny Seraphine is such a great drummer. It's a crying shame that he's not playing pro anymore.

Here's a link with a recent interview.

http://www.mindspring.com/~raitken/dsinterview.html

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« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2004, 06:43 PM »

1. Eric Clapton (Steve Gadd)
"One more Car One More Rider"
Not only a great album, but great concert DVD.

2. I'm enjoying the big box of brain candy the wife gave me yesterday.  A DVD/CD combo, "The Deepest End" by Govt Mule.  Matt Abts on drums.  An army of the best bass players.

3. Greatest Hits by Fleetwood Mac or Steely Dan.

Anyone else got mule?  They play a version of "War Pigs" that rocks.
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« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2004, 11:12 AM »

only three? hmm,

* 311 - Grassroots (Chad Sexton)

* Fun Lovin Criminals - Come Find Yourself (Steve O.)

* All Mike Portnoy stuff ( I really like his drumming on Neal Morse's latest solo album, amazing)

Other albums/bands worth mentioning:
Spocks' Beard (Nick d'Virgillio) - Day For Night (and their other stuff)
Led Zeppelin - II
Lagwagon - Double Plaidinum
John Scofield - Bump, Up all Night
aaargh Shocked  there are just too many, didn't even mention any Gadd or Porcarro albums.....
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« Reply #56 on: March 18, 2004, 09:48 AM »

Don't have 3 favorites but here are 3...

Yes- "Fragile", Bill Bruford on drums
Genesis- "Selling England by the Pound", Phil Collins on drums
Tool- "Lateralus", Danny Carey on drums
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« Reply #57 on: March 18, 2004, 10:18 AM »


Barriemore Barlowe  - Jethro Tull's "Songs from the Wood" - odd time signatures, complex drumming.

always been a big tull fan. songs from the wood is great, and i love benefit. such a thick, earthy vibe on that record. too old to rock 'n roll, A, heavy horses and stormwatch are cool, too. and of course, thick as a brick and passion play.

i was checking out the tull website a week or so ago [skimmed it], and i think either the drummer or guitarist is having a huge tag sale coz he's getting divorced. i didn't catch the whole story, but it seems like he was married to a woman who played in freeport convention [was there a woman in freeport convention?], and now they've got to get rid of their fancy home, cars, gear, the whole doo-dad. pretty intense. he's got an original tull concert poster from like 1969 that's going on the auction block. i'd kill for that one.

i don't really listen to albums just for drums, i like listening to tunes. but i was obsessed with rush's moving pictures and hemispheres and farewell to kings, for stuff like YYZ, la villa strangiato, cygnus x-1, etc., etc. the drumming is so killer on those.

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« Reply #58 on: March 18, 2004, 03:59 PM »

... i was checking out the tull website a week or so ago [skimmed it], and i think either the drummer or guitarist is having a huge tag sale coz he's getting divorced. i didn't catch the whole story, but it seems like he was married to a woman who played in freeport convention [was there a woman in freeport convention?  ...

do you mean Fairport Convention?  Sandy Denny  

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« Reply #59 on: March 18, 2004, 08:26 PM »

2. I'm enjoying the big box of brain candy the wife gave me yesterday.  A DVD/CD combo, "The Deepest End" by Govt Mule.  Matt Abts on drums.  An army of the best bass players.

Anyone else got mule?  They play a version of "War Pigs" that rocks.

I think that's the recording that came after their original bassist died. They went out and hired all his bass heroes to play with them. Does it have their version of "What is Hip" on there? That's Rocco Prestia playing with them.

I'm not a Mule fan ... but I have a great respect for their unusual approach.
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