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jameswalker

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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2005, 09:45 AM »

Quote from: felix on June 08, 2005, 09:24 AM

That's an interesting term "clearing" I like it. I equate this term with a piano tuning term "beats" and try to eliminate as many "beats" in the tone to have as pure of sound as possible.

Bingo. That's exactly it. Back when I was in my "tuna" phase a while back, I remembered "clearing" timp heads in college, and decided to try that basic approach, and it has worked for me. My toms sound better than they ever have in their own right, and the diminished sympathetic vibrations was a pleasant side-effect.

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Subsequently, I've found with my Tama tension watch that your head tension can vary and your pitch be the same between Trod to Trod and vice versa! Just thought you guys might find that interesting and I was wondering if you (or any of you other guys) noticed this phenomenon when you tuned timpani or any other kinda drum

I haven't cleared a timp head in years, but I've definitely noticed this phenomenon, especially on snare drum heads/hoops.


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Re:Killing a snares ring?!?

« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2005, 02:51 PM »

These are all great comments, some I haven't considered and will use myself. Thanks guys!

Something you should also do AJdrumMeister, is make sure your snare wires are flat against the snare side head. If they are not flat, some of the snare wires can't make complete contact with the head causing more snare buzz.

I've noticed this on some drummers' snare drums, especially if they've recently changed the snare side head. A lot of people don't take the time to make sure the snare wires are flat and evenly tensioned on the drum.


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Re:Killing a snares ring?!?

« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2005, 04:59 PM »

While you are not playing the snare turn it off. Release the snares. Not that you dont know this. I am sure you do. but I am not positive. Postive is much more definate the sure. Definite is up there somewhere too. But where are the snares?


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Re:Killing a snares ring?!?

« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2005, 03:25 PM »

I have heard of one solution to take a small piece of paper towel or napkin and place it in-between the snare strands and the reso head at the edges. (only a small fold of paper like a portion of a paper towel folded in half.

Also what works on my kit, (might not work on yours) I get a lot of buzzing when my strands are positioned so that they run horizontally. But for some reason if I spin my snare drum 90 degrees so that they run vertically, it almost completely silences the "buzz"

I dunno why, but it works great for me!


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Re:Killing a snares ring?!?

« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2005, 04:59 PM »

Quote from: mroberge on July 05, 2005, 03:25 PM

That's a little thick. In my experience, a small, small piece of thin paper measuring perhaps 3/16" by three inches works best. I've done this with typing paper, but even this choked the sound ever so slightly, hence my suggesting of thin paper. A cigarette paper, clipped to such a size, would do.


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Re:Killing a snares ring?!?

« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2005, 08:58 PM »

were Puresound Equalizers mentioned?


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Re:Killing a snares ring?!?

« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2005, 07:30 AM »

i'm having the same problem. all the drums would make a buzz. after messing with it for a few hours i stopped the buzz in all the drums except the small tom. it's not too bad i guess. i can stop it by putting a little piece of thin cardboard in the snares. i also have an o-ring on the top head. the batter head is a remo powerstroke on a ludwig accent 1125 snare.


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Re:Killing a snares ring?!?

« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2005, 05:57 AM »

My only suggestion... get into the habit of turning your snare drum off whenever you're not at playing position. It works for me. Even during a song it works well. For example, if I have an 8-count rest with some heavy playing during the rest that would normally make the snares buzz, I would turn my snare off on the first beat and turn it back on on beat 7. This will also extend the life of your snare side drumhead!


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Re:Killing a snares ring?!?

« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2005, 06:55 AM »

You might extend the life of your snare head but you are reducing the life of your throw mechanism- all things being equal, you will have to do a tremendous amount of playing to wear out either.

I don't like the noise engaging your wires makes either- it's usually worse than the sympathetic buzz. In fact I hate to be bothered with the throw. I turn it off when sound checking my toms *after the snare has been checked* then I turn it back on when I do the full kit mic check. Then I leave it the rest of the night ON. I also put it in my case in the ON postion as well. I don't do much timbale or tom sounds with my snare- but if I did, that would be the only reason I would turn them OFF.

How are you going to engage and disengage your wires when you are juggling and spinning sticks?


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« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2005, 01:46 PM »

I suppose a good solution, pending the availablity of clearance between your snare drum and the stand's basket, would be to merely place your hand on the snares, thereby muting and unmuting the snares without that nasty snap caused by engaging the snares. Pressing hard would no doubt sharply decrease the life of the resonant head, though, so don't do that.

However, this is just as crippling to juggling, spinning, and other rigmarole with one's sticks, mallets, brushes, rods, etc. (if not more so), so we're back to square one I suppose.