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We have been told by agents that our song list should comprise of 60% new material and 40% classic rock. Can't say I agree with this and it has caused quite stir amoung the band. The new material is not a problem. But what is the best received classic rock songs? We play cover tunes now such as Stone Temple Pilots, Creed, The Tragically Hip etc. But what are other bands playing in the "classic rock"genre that is well received by the audience?
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2004, 06:47 AM » |
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you cant go wrong with
-smoke on the water (deep purple)
-back in black (ac/dc)
-light my fire (doors)
-purple haze (Hendrix)
-house of the rising sun (animals)
to name a few
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2004, 07:58 AM » |
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I'm not sure a "60-40" split is accurate. I guess it would depend on the crowd and how long you have to play. We play one club where the manager wants us to learn "dance music" like Prince, Commodores, and Gap Band just to name a few! Not new stuff but old 70 and 80's dance stuff! The crowd is mixed young adults in collage to folks my age! But they all get up and boogie to Mustang Sally! Go figure. Unless the new stuff you learn are songs from Pink, No Doubt, Outkast and a select few others, there's not a whole lot a live band can do from new music! Not many people will dance to Audio Slave! Good music! Just not DANCE music. Add a DJ to your band or a karoeke machine and rap! LOL  |
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2004, 08:04 AM » |
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"Peggy Sue" Buddy Holly. Paradiddle workout!
"Ticket to Ride" Beatles. Syncopation-mania.
Are those TOO classic (i.e., OLD)?
The aforementioned "La Grange" ZZ Top
"Flirtin' with Disaster" Molly Hatchet
tons more.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2004, 08:05 AM » |
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I used to sing several that got a good response just about every time:
Werewolves of London - Warren Zevon
Keep Your Hands to Yourself - Georgia Satellites
Walk of Life - Dire Straits
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2004, 09:15 AM » |
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You need to check with the agent who made the statement and get him to clarify. He has an interest in this as well, his cut! More information is needed then just "old stuff". To me, old stuff is 60's and 70's classic rock. To a 25 year old, classic rock is U2 and Nirvana. It's all about who you're playing too, and that will be determined by your target audience and where the agency will book you.
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2004, 09:15 AM » |
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Sweet Home Alabama
Sunshine Of Your Love (every band I've played this with got great response to it)
Two Tickets To Paradise (great fun for the drummer)
Brown-Eyed Girl
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2004, 09:30 AM » |
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As mentioned, Cream is great ("White Room" and "Sunshine of your Love"). I've also found just about any Eagles or Skynyrd goes over well. People generally seem to like Clapton's "Wonderful Tonight" and "Layla" too. And of course, anything Jimi or Santana if you have a guitar player who can pull it off. Or Zeppelin if you can pull of the drumming and vocals. Credence Clearwater Revival is also well received generally and is pretty easy. Hmmmm...lets see...People love hearing Jimi Buffett for some reason (ugh)....oh, Allman Brothers Band!!!! (like "Ramblin' Man or "Whippin Post")....38 Special's "Hold on Loosely"... you cant go wrong with
-smoke on the water (deep purple)
-light my fire (doors)
-purple haze (Hendrix)
-house of the rising sun (animals)
to name a few
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2004, 09:32 AM » |
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Pre 1990 is now considered "classic rock"?
Man, I feel old...
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2004, 10:00 AM » |
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To me, old stuff is 60's and 70's classic rock. To a 25 year old, classic rock is U2 and Nirvana. I agree... to a point. I think that the moniker "classic rock" implies rock music from the late 60's to the mid/late 70's. Even though U2 might be "old" to a 25-year-old, I'm not sure if that qualifies for the "label" of classic rock. IMHO, of course. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2004, 02:15 PM » |
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Someone ought to call the classic rock radio stations and tell them this. |
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2004, 02:27 PM » |
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a couple more.....
"We Got the Beat" Go Go's....Floor Tom City
"We're an American Band" Grand Funk (?)...cool intro lick and then plenty of Cowbell!
"Rock and Roll" Zepellin.....you know.
"Girl from Impanema" Stan Getz et al.......SO cool.
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2004, 02:30 PM » |
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Someone ought to call the classic rock radio stations and tell them this. Yeah, you're probably right. I[/i] wasn't always vintage/classic either, but I am now! Time goes by......................... |
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2004, 02:52 PM » |
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2004, 03:23 PM » |
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Before I jump onto the "What's Classic Rock and What's Not" bandwagon...
I think Tony and a few others have the concept to check against: What are "Classic Rock" radio stations playing?
KLOS is the Classic Rock station in Los Angeles. They play:
Bad Company
Rolling Stones (lotsa these guys)
The Who
Hendrix
(old) Black Sabbath
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Deep Purple
Led Zeppelin
Aerosmith
The Doors
The Eagles
Jackson Browne
etc.
I could go on but the heavy rotation songs that they play generally come from the mid 70's - 80's.
Having said that I think the important thing is for dogxray's band to be on the same page as the agent (in this case). Getting some sample playlists would be helpful. Seeing the different (some very different) opinions about what's "Classic" rock and what's not indicates to me that there is a difference of opinion even amongst professional players. For biz reasons talk to the agent and see what he says his top bands are playing.
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2004, 04:44 PM » |
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These are selections I enjoy when my band plays covers:
* Rebel Yell - Billy Idol
* Just What I Needed - The Cars
* Changes - David Bowie
* Panama - VH
* RIO - Duran Duran
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2004, 12:36 AM » |
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Soundgarden: Nothing To Say, Hands All Over, Gun, Beyond The Wheel. Green River: Kingdom Come, Swallow My Pride, 33 R.P.M, 10,000 Things. Just a few of many tunes, and many bands, (some of the oldest of the northwest area rock scene as my examples..) that are all pre 1990. and all great songs. (wayy pre, all the way back to 84' and before). And for thoughs of you who don't know, let me set the record straight. Grunge was a marketing label, not a sound. The northwest area rock scene (no they wern't ALL from Seattle...  ) was, and still is, a VERY diverse sound. If any one from the northwest area rock scene was "grunge" it was Alice in Chains, for their druging, dark sound. Nirvana (from Aberdeen, WA  ) was pop. And the so called grunge scene has been around since the VERY early 80's (U-Men, as the most well known from that time (around 81') and late 70's ((The) Fastbacks come to mind.. (around 78-79') NOT the early 90's. Joe  |
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2004, 01:29 AM » |
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Classic rock cant have happened in the 80's. I think your agents may be trying to get you to play classic hits throughout the past 30 years. But I wouldnt think hes asking you to play 40% classic rock ............. --unless that is your style OR if he only books those kinds of bars. Which if you despise playing "classic rock" check a different agent. But if you are just making a living and need that work, just learn some classic rocks songs. Pick songs that you guys realy like OR songs that you can pull off. or both  |
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2004, 06:48 AM » |
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Thanks everyone for your input. I don't agree with anything this agent is telling us. But I will take your song suggestions into consideration. Pretty tough to find songs that challenge you musically but still accepted by the masses.
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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2004, 02:57 PM » |
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Dazed and Confused
Immigrant song
Awesome fun to play those songs
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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2004, 06:57 PM » |
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I wouldn't have thought you could get more 'classical' than 'All Right Now' by Free. It's a guaranteed stormer. Other good ones of theirs are 'Little Bit Of Love', 'The Hunter', 'Wishing Well' and 'Fire And Water'.
After transforming into Bad Company, stand out classics are that always raise massive cheers and create good feeling are, 'Feel like makin' love', 'Can't Get Enough' and 'Ready For Love'.
Incidentally, if anyone can transcribe any of the Bad Company songs for a beginner, that would be fantastic.
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