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« on: February 12, 2004, 06:15 AM »

How many of you guys get a call or whatever and it's like "ok can you play next week- here's the cd's"

I'm getting two practices before the gig but man these songs have LOTs of detail.  I've charted out about 75% of them and I think I can fake the other 25% but have been burning the candle at both ends trying to get the material together.

I'm glad to have the gig and I'm a little excited but it's still just a drag thinking about how much better I could play the stuff if I had more time.  I dunno, what do you think?  Maybe the "jam" and "new" factor is a good thing?  Any advice?
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2004, 06:45 AM »

I've been in that situation before too.

Normally, it's more of a "I KNOW I can do better" sort of thing, rather than a "He could have done better" sort of thing.

That is, the folks I am playing with are very grateful and appreciative and "impressed" with my ability to learn all the material (cuz I do my homework!); while I think about how much better I wish I could have been.

I'm sure the guys are only expecting the bare minimum, so anything you give them above and beyond that will be gravy.

But hey, being Johnny-on-the-spot is what being a pro is all about!
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2004, 06:52 AM »

Man, that's some comforting advice.

A pro- THAT's FUNNY.  This is a great payin' band compared to what I'm used to though.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2004, 07:45 AM »

I get those once in a while. A few times it was that night and we review the songs in the car before taking the stage. No CD, just listening to the electric guitar unplugged while tapping my sticks on my leg. Then I watch the bass player for the changes and make the best of it. Luckily, these situations involve roughly 6-10 songs. The downside is that they're the band's originals. Making notes on any changes and breaks is the best I can do.

Obviously, I charge more for a spot like that because of the low prep time. Difficulty and desperation dictate the dollars.

The majority of the time, there is a CD and a little time allowed to more accurately learn the material. I try to make certain I'm not over-doing it by not saying "yes" very quickly.

In this situations, your value goes up as your phone rings more.

Having a steady band keeps me sane.  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2004, 12:56 PM »

I've charted out about 75% of them and I think I can fake the other 25% but have been burning the candle at both ends trying to get the material together.

How about a Drummer Cafe Chart Library?

We could all gather the charts that we have made over the years and share them.

It might make the short notice cover gigs a little easier.

Just a thought...
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2004, 01:25 PM »

How about a Drummer Cafe Chart Library?

We could all gather the charts that we have made over the years and share them.

nice idea Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2004, 02:24 PM »

Felix I share your pain, I get those a lot, I've even get them like drumwild said the same day, a few hours before the gig.  But look at it like this, if they didn't think you could do it they wouldn't have called you, so it's a sign that they consider you a musician who can pull it off, so kudos to you felix.
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2004, 02:47 AM »

How about a Drummer Cafe Chart Library?

We could all gather the charts that we have made over the years and share them.

It might make the short notice cover gigs a little easier.

Just a thought...

its funny,

for guitar or bass, i'll get handed the music, usually just chords along a barline.  but many times, the drummer will be told to listen to the CD, and make his own charts, and recreate the beats.

not until this thread, did i suddenly realize how underratedly do non-drummers see the drum chair.   Undecided

as for Felix,

what DL says is toooo true.   Cool
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2004, 08:49 AM »

Well, I think it is a good idea to have a DC Library.

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for guitar or bass, i'll get handed the music, usually just chords along a barline.  but many times, the drummer will be told to listen to the CD, and make his own charts, and recreate the beats.

not until this thread, did i suddenly realize how underratedly do non-drummers see the drum chair.

Well, one reason is a guitarist can easily look at a barline and figure it out.  You know, "Starts on A, goes to E, then to D, etc."  With drummers, there is no shortcut.  You can't really put out a fake chart or lead sheet to a drummer.  Some reading skills are a must, regardless.  Even just putting a sketch of the rhythmns used in a song requires some understanding of standard notation.  I'm sure if you handed out just a copy of a song to a guitar player with just the chords notated in standard format, most would be lost.
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