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« on: July 02, 2002, 11:24 AM »

Ive been playing the drums for awhile and i consider myself pretty good, but mentally im not where i should be(feet wise).  I have an Iron Cobra pedal and i just have a question or two.

I was watching a David Weckl Video a long time ago and i noticed when he went down to reach for the pedal, the pedal didn't swing 5000 times, it just sorta glided and stopped.  On the other hand, mine just goes back and forth, like its mad.  When ever i work on my feet, i always seem to find something new that is wrong.  Today, i was trying to mash the beater into the head, but i found the pedal shooting off the head, forcing me not to be able to mash the pedal into the head and leaving it there...any ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2002, 02:03 PM »

Here's my opinion ......

The tension of the pedal, as well as the tension of the kick drum batter head can make it difficult to keep the beater pressed into the head.

If this is a technique that you wish to develop, you will more than likely have to make adjustments to allow for this. Personally, I'm a huge fan of always letting the pedal recoil naturally ... thus not forcing the beater into the drumhead. My reasoning is that you get a fuller sound when you all the beater to come off the head; leaving it there will choke a lot of the natural head vibrations. Also, by allowing the beater to swing back naturally, you will be able to play faster because the beater is already back ... ready to strike the drum again and again. If you leave the beater on the head, you have to make two motions; one for the recoil and another for the strike.

Think of it this way ... if you are in a fight ... do you push you fist into the guy's face ... or ... do you punch him and recoil so that you are ready to punch him again and again if necessary?
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2002, 02:14 PM »

well i dont think its a hardware problem, because i still play with a HP10 (the most basic pedal tama has), and it wobbles around 5 times
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2002, 06:11 AM »

I don't think I have great feet but I am getting better at my rudiments on the kick and have been playing double bass for 20 years so you can take my advice or leave it.

I look at it like this (which is me).  Every dude's kit I have ever played has different feeling pedal.  And everyone's feet are slightly if not radically different in design.

You don't use your feet like your hands and that makes them harder to develop.  You really need to focus on your feet for at least a 1/2 hour per day.  It's tough I know, but try it.  And then when you play with your hands, do you leave your stick in the drum after you hit it (you can, but all the time is not cool).  Also, your feet are first to "lose it"...one really needs to keep working them if they want to have solid bass drum chops and that is really important.

Don't worry about a Dave Weckle or any other video.  They are cool to glean information from, but I think everyone is different.  I don't want to play like Dave Weckle (as great as he is).  Get your pedal tension so you are comfortable with it.  Execute your doubles and triplets the best you can...if the tension is too tight, loosen it up, if you don't feel the beater is coming back quick enough, well- tighten it up.  Try not let the beater blubber on the kick batter...either come off of it totally or dig in and stay there heel up.

I think if you can get a good long roll happening on your double pedal, can play some decent led zeppelin or iron maiden passages kick passages and can also double some jazz syncopations/jazz samba stuff...you should be on the right track...try some multiple bounce press stuff with a tighter bass drum head also...I'm not that good but it would be fun to try in a jazz setting.
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