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« on: February 24, 2004, 02:51 AM » |
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In recent times my lyric writing has seen much improvement.We have even made one song and will start work on others soon.For me I need anger or depression to be inspired enough to write,well atleast decent to good lyrics.What inspires you guys/gals to write lyrics??
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DrumerFromSysinoid
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2004, 08:13 AM » |
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usually i want to say something and make a point that i think not enough people are saying, and not enough people are understanding or even know about (i write political lyrics mostly)
though my emotional lyrics are just a release and i don't worry about them much after that, you can't force an emotion, you have to have it there if you want to write it...
for most people i think that's the case anyway
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2004, 09:51 AM » |
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The melody inspires the lyrics in my case. All music creates a visual image in my head. And the nature of the imagery determines the nature of the lyrics. On top of that, I think of vocals as an instrument first, word delivery system second. So the word has to have a consonant/vowel combination that facilitates an appropriate harmony. Usually I just have one lyric, one short line that is it for the whole song. (who me minimalist? NEVER!  ) For instance, on one of The Luna Moth songs, all I sing is "sea glass" and stretch it over the length of a riff. Rinse and repeat that 3 times. The music of that song made me think of hanging out on the beach with the missus and our dog. And the words "sea glass" created a harmonic element that suited the song and reenforced the imagery of the music. |
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2004, 10:04 AM » |
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The music of that song made me think of hanging out on the beach with the missus and our dog. And the words "sea glass" created a harmonic element that suited the song and reenforced the imagery of the music.
I've got to throw this in: For those of you out there who have not heard of "sea glass", its the product of old bottles, glass, etc. that has been in the ocean for a long time, and when the pieces wash up on shore, they are immensely smooth from years at sea sanding it down. The effect of this is beautiful, gemlike, colored, transparent stones. The first time I saw sea glass I was walking down a beach in the Virgin Islands. Suddenly I spotted this gleaming emerald green stone. Then I found some lapiz blue fragments, and amber ones....I thought I was on a treasure trail of the Pirates. (I did end up finding some killer ancient artifacts that washed up on the beach, though.) Many of those pieces of glass come from OLD bottles, and if you're lucky enough to find a bottom piece, sometimes it will have writing on the bottom. Of course, you can tell how long the sea glass has been out in the ocean by how smooth it is (new pieces of seaglass are still sharp). I've got an AWESOME seaglass collection. Sea glass is beautiful! I love sea glass! I even made a seaglass mosaic  Okay, back to lyrics.... |
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Is there another word for synonym?
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2004, 12:51 PM » |
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i'm a good writer but a crap-o lyricist. my band won't let me write coz they say everything is too wordy, poetic, etc.
having been humbled, i now pay very close attention to phrasing and melody. our singer has a joe cocker-ish thing going on, in that you can never make out what he's saying. but he does a great job of it. his phrasing inspires my lyrics. i'm hoping one day he'll actually let me tell him what i hear.
when i want to just vent my feelings, whatever they are, i turn to regular prose. i've got about 52 journals of all my musings. when we make it big, i'm putting 'em on e-bay.
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2004, 05:58 AM » |
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Two main things:
1. What happens in the world, or in my personal life, is very inspiring for me. I always try to write "real" things, it gives more sense to the song IMO.
2. The melody inspires me A LOT to arrange what I have created in 1. It helps me to refine my thoughts.
Just my 2 cents !
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2004, 07:32 AM » |
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You write what you know and experience, whether it's lyrics, poems, novels, music, etc. My inspiration is drawn from the experiences I have had in my life. My mood at any given time may direct the tone of the story I am telling, but it isn't going to drive it. If I'm angry I may channel that into some type of passage in my story, but my entire story won't be anger laden. The most simple, effective advice for any type of composition is simply write what you know.
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Is there another word for synonym?
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2004, 08:06 AM » |
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to briefly add...
one thing that i've noticed in a lot of newer band's lyrics is what i describe as self-consciousness. lyrics today are a lot more "obvious" than in the past; they don't leave much to mystery.
true, a lot of older music may have been more symbolic, and as such maybe didn't make as much "sense" [eg; Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"], but that's what i generally like about that music.
a newer tune that comes to mind, in terms of the "saying too much" is [i'll say the band is incubus, but i'm most likely wrong] this one tune that goes something like "a second ago, i never thought i would be, a 23-year old on the edge of spontaneous combustion woe is me..."
the dude crams in all those lyrics in the span of 4 seconds or so. it's just too much, imho. it doesn't let the music breathe.
a far cry from something like [bad eg, but i can't think...] "sitting on a park bench, eyeing little girls with bad intent"
the way those words are phrased, and the way the music breathes, is more interesting to me. it paints a picture without revealing everything.
another good 'paints a picture' tune is rush's red barchetta. it took me a while to realize that it was about a car. i also like pearl jam's "jeremy." it's a really good and intense take on a nutty kid.
good song and lyric writing. definitely an art.
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2004, 03:35 PM » |
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when i'm writing lyrics, i tend not to think about anything in general and start writng down whatever comes out then i go back over them untill they come out just right in song form
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2004, 02:39 AM » |
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i'm a good writer but a crap-o lyricist. my band won't let me write coz they say everything is too wordy, poetic, etc.
i'd say that goes for me, too. nowadays, when i write a sketch of lyrics down, i hate it when it rhymes. instantly, the lines sound cheap and lazy. but i don't like it when it don't rhyme, too...  i'm glad i'm a drummer and not a songwriter |
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2004, 07:09 AM » |
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I'm mostly inspired by my wife, my relationship, and my day-to-day struggles. Complaining about "work" surfaces in a lot of the lyrics I write.
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2004, 04:51 PM » |
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one thing that i've noticed in a lot of newer band's lyrics is what i describe as self-consciousness. lyrics today are a lot more "obvious" than in the past; they don't leave much to mystery.
true, a lot of older music may have been more symbolic, and as such maybe didn't make as much "sense" [eg; Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"], but that's what i generally like about that music.
I don't know, I'm kind of getting tired of misterious lyrics, it just doens't seem honest enough.
If it is a natural thing, then it's fine. But if you're pushing to appear more complex, then it's fake.
I write a lot of lyrics that don't become songs, kind of a release.
I write about everything that makes sense to me. Recently I'm trying not to write too many depression songs. One you're happy again, you don't wanna sing that anymore.
I got a pretty cool ryming dictionary that helps me a lot. |
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2004, 04:52 PM » |
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@$%#! Ok, my post starts at:
I don't know...
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