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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2004, 12:36 PM »

Probably over a quarter--could be a third--needed to go back for various separation anxiety issues.

That's pathetic...

I'm really digging Aquarian heads at this point.

Evans' flaky coating bugs me a bit, but the Remo situation is just inexcusable and unacceptable.

Although, a great Ambassador is a beautiful thing. Too bad its becoming easier to find Bigfoot than a great Ambassador...
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« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2004, 12:39 PM »

I was watching a 'what heads for snare drum?' thread at another place Roll Eyes. Early on someone commented along the lines of; no brainer, ambassador top and bottom. There followed a gaggle of like minded forumites saying "yeah, what's wrong with that? Ambassadors all the way".

Can I guess what that "other place" is?

Does it start with a "p" and rhyme with "Pearl?"  Wink
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« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2004, 12:46 PM »

50% Remo
35% Evans
15% Aquarian (you would never be able to rehead a normal 5 piece with the same heads though. Stray performace 2 here and a stray response 2 there)
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« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2004, 03:29 PM »


Does it start with a "p" and rhyme with "Pearl?"  Wink


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Actually, I don't even go there.
No, this was a place with a reasonable reputation.....but a few older attitudes.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2004, 03:34 PM »

Stopped into another local store, Marshall Music in Torrance (Ca.) It's more sheet music & band gear with a small drum section, and literally 24 heads on hand. This is a fairly extreme mix, but I'm counting them anyway. It'll all even out in the end:

92% Remo
8% Aquarian

No Evans or other.
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« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2004, 03:37 PM »

Ok, just briefly browsing through 3 shops in the past week here is my viewings, perhaps the UK will show different results.

Tin Pan Alley Drum Centre (Central London):
55% Evans
45% Aquarian

Andy's Drum Centre (Central London):
45% Evans
35% Aquarian
20% Remo

Sutton Music Centre (Tiny music shop in South London):
95% Remo
5% No Name heads
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« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2004, 09:00 PM »

Interesting idea, and something I've thought about a few times myself.

While I haven't done a more detailed look, I have taken casual notice of the head brands carried by the small and large chain stores in my area.  Remo appears to be carried the most, Evans 2nd, Aquarian 3rd, and Attack last.  This is formula at the GC-type stores here.  Stores that carry entry level drums for public school students almost exclusively carry Remo.

As it naturally follows, it wasn't until I began using Aquarian heads that I began taking note of who carried them.  Sadly, not too many stores.  The only exception to this is a locally owned shop in SLC that caters to a more professional crowd.  Their Aquarian inventory is probably the best, but I don't know the percentage compared to the other brands.  Now I have a mission!  Grin
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« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2004, 01:43 AM »

Ok, just briefly browsing through 3 shops in the past week here is my viewings, perhaps the UK will show different results.

Tin Pan Alley Drum Centre (Central London):
55% Evans
45% Aquarian

Andy's Drum Centre (Central London):
45% Evans
35% Aquarian
20% Remo

Will,
That's the perfect example of what I'm saying.
I visited both those shops about 6 weeks ago looking for 'usable' studio heads by Evans or Aquarian. I mean Aquarian Satin Coated, New Orleans etc..Evans Genera, J1......nothing in stock. I managed one Hi Impact.
Sorry if the names aren't quite right, but I would have seen what I wanted if they'd had them. I also asked at both stores.
BTW, plenty of Ambassadors and PinStripes.
So in my opinion these percentage comparisons are quite academic.
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« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2004, 07:50 AM »

So in my opinion these percentage comparisons are quite academic.

Yes, somewhat. But the survey is not about drummers' favorite heads, it's about brand market share. And without the ability to poll store sales figures, the only other measurement is to visually check what's on the shelves to determine Remo's, Evans' and Aquarian's availability to the end user.

It's not scientific, but it's all we have to go on.
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« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2004, 08:03 AM »

Yes, somewhat. But the survey is not about drummers' favorite heads

I think that's missing the point.
I'm not looking for a personal 'favourite' but a selection of standard, usable heads. That's key in my opinion.
The previous correspondant said he saw 45% and 35% Aquarian heads in two drum stores I coincidentally recently visited. I came out empty handed though because neither store had any 'Texture Coated' or 'New Orleans' heads in stock. They are I believe the Aquarian answer to the Ambassador.
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« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2004, 08:21 AM »

I think you're starting to hit on the key issue for me, Bermuda.  Namely, when I'm ready to rehead my drums, can I find the head I want in the sizes I need?  For me, the answer is increasingly "No."

I sympathize with store managers, though.  Heads are rather like cymbals nowadays.  There are so many varieties, even among a single brand name, that keeping a meaningful inventory of even just the most likely choices would drive you mad.

I have pretty much resigned myself to placing an order several weeks before I know I'll need them.  Fortunately, my local store is happy to accommodate me.

Sure would like to try a couple of J1's though, just for fun.
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« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2004, 08:29 AM »

It's not scientific, but it's all we have to go on.

I'm not meaning to sound argumentative.
I'll be interested to see the survey anyway.
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« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2004, 10:30 AM »

I think that's missing the point.
I'm not looking for a personal 'favourite' but a selection of standard, usable heads.

My survey deals with market share, not the selection of usable heads. It's strictly a brand name presence survey, based on my argument that "what little market share [Evans has]" is incorrect - that their share is prominent and fast-gaining on (and eroding) Remo's share.

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« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2004, 10:35 AM »

I think you're starting to hit on the key issue for me, Bermuda.  Namely, when I'm ready to rehead my drums, can I find the head I want in the sizes I need?  For me, the answer is increasingly "No."..
Sure would like to try a couple of J1's though, just for fun.

The selection problem was a real issue with me a few years ago, and there were times where I couldn't find 3 tom heads of the same type, in any brand! As an Evans user, walking into some stores, I'd still be faced with that problem, but to a much lesser degree than a few years ago. There was a time maybe just 5 years ago where it was very difficult to find a real selection of Evans or even Aquarian heads in stores. That's obviously changed considerably.

BTW, the J1's are great heads! Very expressive, but also only one ply, so don't rock too hard.  Smiley

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« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2004, 03:11 PM »

My drumshop, named "THE DRUMSHOP" doesn't even stock Aquarians.  They are 70% Evans, and 30% Attack.

All others must be ordered...

Kinda interesting, b/c they have been in business for 20+ years...
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« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2004, 03:12 PM »

Forgot to mention REMO.  SO, it is about 50% Evans, 20% Attack, 30% Remo...
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« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2004, 03:51 PM »

I can only guess the percentages, but in 3 different GC's I shop at here in NJ, I'd have to say the numbers are roughly the same as most of what the rest of you guys are seeing, with Remo dominating, Evans in 2nd and very few Aquarians and Attacks to be found.  Sad

It's rather disappointing, since I too have recently fallen in love with Aquarian heads after being a Remo player for ~20 years. The selection of Aquarian's at all three stores is pathetic. I couldn't even get a Classic snare side head to try out from any of the stores around here (including Sam Ash!) so I had to settle for Remo Ambassadors instead...  Undecided
Anyone having any better luck finding Aquarians around here? I have yet to go into NYC to check since being converted, but I'd like to try to avoid the traffic, tolls, and those higher taxes, if possible.  Wink

(BTW, I am lovin' the Hi-Energy snare batter!!!)  Shocked
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« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2004, 07:13 PM »

The GC's here store about 60% Remo, 30% Evans, 10% Aquarian.  Don Bennett's Drum Shop though is 50% Remo & 50% Aquarian.  No Evans.  Depends on the store.  I know I've had issues buying Aquarian at GC in Seattle.  They just don't stock all the series.  While most everyone on here loves Aquarian (I love the Super Kicks but hated the Studio X's on my Fibes) seems like they have still have to battle the stores just to get shelving space.
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« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2004, 07:15 PM »

at the local sam ash and guitar center, it's 80% remo, 20% evans.  at the small shop i go to for lessons, it's nothing but remo.  at the other shops in town it's "durrrrr, what's a drum head?"
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« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2004, 09:30 PM »

  A local shop has about 50% Evans
                                       45% Remo
                                        5%  Aquarian

   Another one has about 90% Evans
                                         10% Remo
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