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I just got back to Waco from this. UN-FREAKING-BELIEVABLE!!!! A glimpse of what heaven will be like for drummers....as a bonus, I got to say hello to Bart.  --David
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2004, 07:00 AM » |
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Hey, guys: TELL US MORE!!!!!  Thanks. Doug
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I'm slowly working up to having as many cymbals as Zsa Zsa's had husbands. 
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2004, 09:12 AM » |
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I'll share some of my experiences this weekend ... a little later ... but would like to give anyone who attended an opportunity to share what they got out of it. As a participant ... I have to say that I was blown away. Getting to hang and play a bit with all these great musicians was definitely a once in a life time experience. I only hope that I get to do that again! Also ... for any Cafe members who came to the event ... I'm sorry if I didn't get to chat very much, or even appeared to be "distant". I was so fried from the rehearsals and long hours ... I was in a daze for most of the weekend. That and trying to visit/chat with everyone. 
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2004, 08:42 PM » |
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yo, I was there as well, and I'm from Waco.
In the mother of all coincidences, a Baylor student from Waco ended up sitting next to me...unless you're him, that makes three from Waco, not counting my daughter. I'm David Jung and play at First United Methodist at Cobbs & Lake Air... --David
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2004, 10:09 PM » |
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2004, 10:21 PM » |
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One of the best quotes…regarding the time-keeping part of drumming and directed to worship leaders, etc. “If the drummer’s rushing, he’s right. If he’s dragging, he’s right.” Hmmmm ... now I wonder who might have said that?!  ROFL [move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]<-----------------------------[/move]
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2004, 05:32 AM » |
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Hmmmm ... now I wonder who might have said that?!  ROFL You know the customer is always right. But now, it has been officially confirmed that: [move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]The Drummer is ALWAYS right![/move]  Thanks for that info, David. Doug
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2004, 09:25 AM » |
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David-
Thanks for the review. It warmed my heart to hear your report about Vinnie C. I had dinner with him several years ago right after he got done being out with Sting. Vinnie had asked me if I would give him a ride back to his hotel. He told me on the way there about some personal issues he was going through. At the time he was not a believer, but I felt I needed to tell him about my experience with God and how the power of prayer can work in someone's life. It is great to see that he obviously has looked to Him, and found peace through Him! It is of course refreshing to hear about the other great players at the conference too!
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2004, 09:33 AM » |
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Awesome everyone! Sounds like it was a great experience! I can't wait for Bart to tell us all about his clinic!
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2004, 12:31 PM » |
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Hmmmm ... now I wonder who might have said that?!  ROFL [move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]<-----------------------------[/move] There was so much good stuff going on, its hard to keep straight who said what.  Your bus-driver/tour-guide and the card analogies was pretty good too. I think you mentioned this, but it bears repeating as I can vouch for it...the more I'm practiced up, the more creative I am. Kind of the Luck=Preparation+Opportunity thing. The cowbell/water thing was really neat...not sure where I'd use it yet without freaking everyone out.  That would be a good thing to describe or video so we can see how its done. I noticed one thing Saturday that was pretty interesting in the clinics and the question/answer panel. There were a positions taken on things that at first blush sounded like they were exact opposites, but when placed in context made good sense. E.g., you mentioned playing a song exactly like the CD isn't really desired while the fellow following you said he made his students play it exactly like the CD. In the context of creative expression versus learning/skills-development, the opposite statements make sense. Ditto for the secular/religious playing, etc. --David
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2004, 01:05 PM » |
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I noticed one thing Saturday that was pretty interesting in the clinics and the question/answer panel. There were a positions taken on things that at first blush sounded like they were exact opposites, but when placed in context made good sense. E.g., you mentioned playing a song exactly like the CD isn't really desired while the fellow following you said he made his students play it exactly like the CD. In the context of creative expression versus learning/skills-development, the opposite statements make sense. Ditto for the secular/religious playing, etc.
Yeah ... that particular thing wasn't a contradiction. I was referring to when you are actually playing, creating and expressing yourself; Terl was referring to a student situation which is very different ... and important to first learn how it is done on the CD (perhaps) ... then taking it and making it your own. The only thing that I heard that were polar views was on the topic of secular versus religious musical situations. I think the thing that was agreed upon with all of that is that you have to do what YOU are called to do ... and not look to others for approval. I know that I am supposed to do both; I'm just a musician who happens to be a Christian. If more people would just focus on what God is telling them to do, and trust that God is directing what others are doing ... we'd all be a lot better off. 
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2004, 10:00 PM » |
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DrummersForJesus was excellent! Thanks for a great session, Bartman! I could go on and on about the incredible playing and great sessions -- but I won't... Just imagine for yourself how great it would be, then take my word for it -- it was "infinity times" better. Praise God for all of you that were willing to give your time and effort to make this such a success!
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2004, 12:21 AM » |
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what no pics? tsk, tsk... 
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2004, 10:20 AM » |
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Thank you to all of you that made it to the 2004 International Drummers for Jesus Celebration. I think it surpassed everyone's expectations, I know it did mine. All the artists were very happy with the event and want to be a part of next year's celebration. God Bless you all! Carlos Benson, director <>< Drummers for Jesus Int'l
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2004, 12:47 PM » |
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what no pics? tsk, tsk...  Well, there were the signs Saturday AM that said no video or audio equipment allowed in the sanctuary...seemed to be mostly disregarded.  I took a couple of pix of the stage using my daughter's camera Friday night before things started. If one of them turned out, I'll try to get it posted. --David
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2004, 08:03 AM » |
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Here's a few photos from the event ... courtesy of founder & director ... Carlos Benson ... and Modern Drummer photographer, Rodney Harrison. Drummers For Jesus artists after the Friday night concert Bart performing during his Saturday morning seminar ... "Creative Expression" This last photo was taken just after Sheila jumped into the middle of us ... There were about 100 people taking photos at this point ... too funny.
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2004, 10:59 AM » |
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I'm looking at the pic with Barts auxillary kit aannnnndd.... oh yeah, there he is- I can just make out a couple arms and is that a receding hair line?
That really is quite a unique setup. Did you do any drum set work as well or did they call you specifically for the aux. work you do?
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2004, 11:21 AM » |
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wow----Thats a beautiful set up. I see some gear I'm not familiar with. (I think I need to visit some percussion sites to update my knowledge and come back and join this conversation.) Tell us about that bass drum....wait a minute, and that salad bowl on the plant stand to the left of you... And what exactly is that necklace thing hanging down? And tell us about the........  Tell us about some grooves you did in your clinic! 
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2004, 12:24 PM » |
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Here's a quick description of my set-up, which I played with my hands as well as Blasticks. Right foot is playing a Ngoma drum (like a Djun-Djun) by way of a pedal. Left is playing some Ghungroos (ankle bells) by way of a pedal and a Gajate bracket. The large frame drum is actually my tuneable Bodhran, mounted on a snare stand. Tambourine (with head) mounted on snare stand. The "salad bowl" is filled with water ... and I dipped an LP Essoteric Cowbell into the water as I played it, thus bending the pitch. I'm not "wearing" the Bamboo Wind Chimes ... as it appears in the photo; it's just the camera angle. There's also an assortment of rattles and shakers ... including my favorite Caxixi ... and an old Chinese Temple Block. Here's a link for video footage which gives a few excerpts from the composition ... CLICK HERE! I'll talk about the composition and what I played a little later on ... so stay tuned!
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2004, 12:38 PM » |
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And what exactly is that necklace thing hanging down? Bart, I think she's asking about the thing that looks like it came from the neck of a Medicine Man that's hanging horizontally from the stand in front of you. To the left of the Bamboo Wind Chimes. Am I right, Warrior Princess? 
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