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amoacristo
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« on: July 17, 2002, 03:24 PM »

I have always heard about the drummer and bass playing needing to lock in together. I have never had the opportunity to play with a descent bass player. I would like some advice concerning locking in with the bass player. Does the bass player follow the drummer, or the drummer follow the bass player, or is there a joint effort from them both? Any kind of advice would be helpful.
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2002, 04:18 PM »

I have had some experience playing different styles of music etc.. and I have found that the bass and drums, like you said, should be locked together. I have had bad experiences with bass players and amazing experiences. I don't think the drummer OR the bass player lead -- in my experience it's been a kind of synergy between the two.

People say the drummer is the backbone and the groovemaker, and that's true, but if the bass player isn't where the drummer is it just sounds like mush. The best "grooving" experience I ever had was with a bass player at an open mic night. He was the house bands bass player and it was fun to lock in with him; so I think it's a combination of both.  

Also if you can find a good chemistry with a bass player and practice together a lot-- from simple blues to rock to whatever-- as long as there is a groove happening and you feel it in your bones.  --Just my opinion
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2002, 04:48 PM »

well, im both a drummer and a bass player (electric and upright) and really its up to the music.  the whole concept of drums as accompanyment and a "rhythm section" is taken to seriously in my book.  if it happens that you and the bass player lock into a groove because it suits the music fine ... but it doesnt have to be that way.  i played drums in an indie rock band for a while and the guitarist would write ideas for the most part and then he and i would hook up and flesh them out into songs.  so rhythmically i was more matching the guitar than the bass because of how we wrote.  

if your music tends toward the groove oriented and you want to lock in with the bass player go for it.  in that case most of the "lock" happens then kick drum matches up with the bass player when s/he plays the tonic note of the song.  say a riff in the song is based on G ... the bass player hits that low G on 1 at the same to you hit the kick. "BOOM"  locking and groove are all about  the 1.  listen to any funk album and youll hear it, personally i recommend the ohio players Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2002, 10:34 AM »

I was listening to James Brown's earlier stuff  this morning and that also has some great "locked" in bass and drum stuff. Like 563 said, it does also really depend on the style too. (as far as what the drums and bass are doing)

If you listen to Stewart Copeland and the Police, sometimes he really plays with Andy Summers along side the guitar "strikes". But other times he and Sting are grooving along. Oh well, just some thoughts.

One more thought. I have this album by "Sly and Robbie" two really great reggae players. The album is just bass and drums (with some strange effects going on) and they are also great examples of the "locked" sound.
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