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« on: May 09, 2004, 06:24 PM »

i'd been reading some post of James Walker's about marimba and thought about making a xylophone type (what exactly do you call them?) instrument out of metal pipe.  

now for the questionsL 1) what kind of length interval should i use to have each pipe sound signifigantly different? 2) how would i attach them to a frame? 3) what should i use for the frame (preferably something light)?

have any of you done anything like this?
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2004, 10:05 PM »

i'd been reading some post of James Walker's about marimba and thought about making a xylophone type (what exactly do you call them?) instrument out of metal pipe.  

We had something like that back where I did my undergraduate studies.  Not a big thing, not even chromatic, something home-made; I think it was called a "tubophone," but don't quote me on that (it has been about fifteen years since the last time I saw it).

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now for the questionsL 1) what kind of length interval should i use to have each pipe sound signifigantly different?

I have no clue, other than to suggest experimenting.  I'm sure that the pitch will be affected not only by the length, but also the thickness of the pipe, and the material comprising the pipe.

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2) how would i attach them to a frame?


If I were doing this...I'd look into resting them on a frame, rather than actually attaching them.  Kind of like what I've seen for orchestra bells.  Maybe have a hole drilled vertically through the pipe, with a rod (with a rubber or felt gasket) going up from the frame through the pipe, one rod per pipe.  Then, on the other side, have a cushion, pad, or maybe crosshatched string/cord for a support.  Or, if you're not going to hit it too hard, just let the pipes rest in place - maybe shape the frame so that it cradles each pipe in place.

(I'm working on some sketches - but what I've got so far would confuse more than it would enlighten, so I'll refrain from posting them for the moment.)

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3) what should i use for the frame (preferably something light)?

Wood would be my choice, just because it's easier to work with compared to metal (for me, at least).  If you want to go nuts with this, contact Dave at Marcato Percussion and design a carbon fiber rack for it!  (I'm only half-kidding, BTW...)
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2004, 11:57 PM »

I'm thinking that the playing of such an instrument would be difficult at best; sort of like the mechanics of baseball (i.e. hitting a round ball with a similarly convex object) and how a .300 batting average (hitting the ball 3 times out of 10!)  is considered very good in the big leagues.

You might consider fabricating mallets that resemble, er, mallets—at least, the kind that we identify as cousin to a hammer.  The longer side could be used as the playing surface to increase accuracy.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2004, 04:40 AM »

thank you both for your advice.  james, i think i understand what you mean about the mounting for the bars.  joe, i never thought about the mallets, thanks for the tip.


thanks guys

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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2004, 08:30 AM »

I'm thinking that the playing of such an instrument would be difficult at best; sort of like the mechanics of baseball (i.e. hitting a round ball with a similarly convex object) and how a .300 batting average (hitting the ball 3 times out of 10!)  is considered very good in the big leagues.

Yeah, but at least the bars aren't moving at 98 miles per hour!  Wink

From the little bit that I played that little instrument in college, I found that the problem wasn't accuracy, so much as it was the feel of the surface.  Even tho marimba/xylo/vibe bars are wider than the "sweet spot" on the tubes, one's striking spots on m/x/v bars are generally more accurate than being all over the width of the surface of the bar.

It's hard to say how fluid one's technique could be on this kind of instruments - the parts I played were really sparse, not calling for a lot of blazing speed chops.
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2004, 08:44 AM »

When you see and hear the Bonang players in Balinese Gamelan groups, it becomes apparent that its all just a matter of practice.

They are playing nipple gongs with what is essentially a short 1" dowel.  The small striking point of those gongs are anywhere from about 4-12" apart.   They wrapped around 3 sides of them.  They play sitting down.   And they can play complex patterns remarkably fast.

So hitting a round tube with a round mallet is just a matter of getting used to it.   Grin
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2004, 01:49 PM »

 Steel and alum. pipe also comes square, (if you want a flat striking surface) suspending the bars with cord alows good resonance, I think that is how a 'balaphone' is made.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2004, 03:05 PM »

thanks for all the great ideas, guys!

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