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« on: June 17, 2004, 10:20 PM »

I'd like to know a little about your current bass drum pedal:

1. Brand / Model / beater type

2. Spring tension on a scale of 1 to 5 (1 loose - 5 tight)

3. Footboard angle when beater touches the head (this is the unscientific part); A nearly flat, B moderate angle, C steep angle.

4. Length of beater shaft (again, non-scientific): short, medium, long

5. Foot position: Heel up / Heel down   (or percentage of each)


I am currently using:
DW5000 (early 80's) felt (wood for big band)
1 - loose spring
B - moderate angle.
medium
80/20


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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2004, 10:29 PM »

These are my current stats as to this manner, subject to change.

1. Second-generation Iron Cobra Power-Glide; stock felt beater.

2. I would guess 1.5—it's almost as loose as it gets.

3. Moderate-steep angle (angle is steep when the pedal is at rest).

4. The shaft is set at a low (short) position to facilitate sweet-spot playing on an 18" bass drum.  The general shaft length is medium.

5. 80% heel-down.

6. Listing 50 degrees from vertical.
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2004, 10:56 PM »

1. early pat pending rogers swivomatic strap drive solid footboard model. traditional felt beater most of the time. yamaha felt beater sometimes. wood beater once in a blue moon.

2. spring tension probably about 4/5. i don't like the beater flopping around of it's own accord. if i lift my foot it swings a little then stops.

3. footboard is almost flat when making head contact.

4. medium length. a bit above the centre of the head on my 18" bass.

5. 100% heel down.
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2004, 11:40 PM »

1. Yamaha Flying Dragon, currently has the strap drive.  usually, the included Yamaha felt beater, but these days, have been digging the 4 sided Pearl beater.

2. tension at about 2 for a more controlled floppy feel.  (if there's such a thing Wink)

3. C.) pretty steep.

4. medium length, half way from the middle to top of my 18" bass.

5. 80% heel up
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2004, 02:21 AM »

1. Yamaha Pedal, the one that comes with my Yamaha Stage Custom (I think it's a Yamaha FP700, or something EDIT: it's a Yamaha FP7210, I've checked on Yamaha's website). Chain drive, with the included felt beater. HERE's a pic.

2. Spring tension: 3 (medium tight)

3. footboard angle when the beater touches the head: A. (almost flat)

4. length of beater shaft: pretty long (just what it needs for my 20" bass drum)

5. 70% heel up (loud playing) - 30% heel down (soft playing)
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2004, 05:04 AM »

1. An ancient Yamaha mid-level pedal (no longer made), strap drive, DW reversible beater (using the hard side of the beater 95% of the time)

2. I guess between 2 and 3

3. moderately flat (how's that for precise?)

4. Beater shaft extended pretty fully, to hit center of 22" head

5. 90/10 heel-up


I finally found a modern pedal that has the features I want (and none of the crap I don't want), so I plan to eventually replace this old relic with the new Yamaha 8110 pedal.
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2004, 05:35 AM »

1. Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide
2. Spring tension: 3
3. Moderate Angle
4. I'd say Medium (Hits dead center on a 22" kick)
5. 80% Heel down.

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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2004, 07:04 AM »

1. Tama - Iron Cobra (chain drive) felt beater

2. 4

3. B

4. medium

5. 95% heel up
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2004, 07:24 AM »

1. DW5000 (newer one with the weighted footboard), standard DW beater using felt side

2. 3-ish

3. moderate angle

4. medium

5. 60% heel up, 40% heel down

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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2004, 07:34 AM »

Pedal = DW 5000 Delta Turbo  (Not the Delta II w/ the weights etc.)  

Beater type = DW (felt side)

Tension = 4

Angle = moderate

Beater shaft = medium

Heel up = 70%  
Heel down = 30%

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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2004, 07:46 AM »

1. Iron Cobra Powerglide, felt beater (rubber when it arrives)
2.  1.5
3. Flat
4. I have a long shaft (no pun intended Tongue )
5. 90% Heel up 10% Hell down.

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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2004, 08:22 AM »

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1. Brand / Model / beater type

Tama Iron Cobra PowerGlide with stock felt beater.  Occasionally swapped for wood beater.  Occasionally topped with a rolled up sock (until I get around to getting a sheepskin beater).

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2. Spring tension on a scale of 1 to 5 (1 loose - 5 tight)

4.  I like the pedal to help bring the beater back off the head.

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3. Footboard angle when beater touches the head (this is the unscientific part); A nearly flat, B moderate angle, C steep angle.

A 1/2 - B ... unscientific answer Smiley   Not flat, not much of an angle.  

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4. Length of beater shaft (again, non-scientific): short, medium, long

Ill say medium.  A touch north of the center point on a 20" drum.

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5. Foot position: Heel up / Heel down   (or percentage of each)

5% / 95%   Primarily heel down, with heel up for accent on occasion.

You didnt ask about beater angle.  Which seems kinda relevant in a poll like this.  Especially if youre bothering with foot board angle Wink  so  ...

6. Beater angle: ~ degrees off from vertical.

About 20-25 degrees.  Definitely moved forward from stock position.  
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2004, 10:10 AM »


You didnt ask about beater angle.  Which seems kinda relevant in a poll like this.  Especially if youre bothering with foot board angle Wink  so  ...

6. Beater angle: ~ degrees off from vertical.

About 20-25 degrees.  Definitely moved forward from stock position.  

OK...let's go for it.
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2004, 10:13 AM »


4. I have a long shaft (no pun intended Tongue )


I figured I'd get this response sooner or later.   Well...congratulations on your long shaft!!!
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2004, 10:42 AM »

- Tama HPTW120 (or something of the sort). It's the cheap double pedal Tama made, it has the Iron Cobra first generation footboard.

- Springs are at 3. Sometimes tighter, sometimes not.

- Moderate angle, about a B1/4

- Medium, going on Long shaft length

- Heel up 100% of the time (heel down only for VERY quiet playing, but I don't do that much)

- Beater angle at factory setting. Which is about a medium.
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2004, 11:05 AM »

1. DW4000 Chain Drive, using the felt side

2. 4

3. B

4. long ( 22" kick)

5. 95% heel up.

6. Stock angle...its was cool right outta the box!  Cheesy

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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2004, 12:17 PM »

1. Premier 252 single pedal from ~1978.   Recently found a new beater for $9.99 on ebay (the shaft is considerably thicker than what's available today), and put the Iron Cobra and Eliminator aside to bring this badboy back online!!  

2. Spring tension: 3 (medium tight)

3. footboard angle when the beater touches the head: A. (almost flat)

4. length of beater shaft: whatever makes it hit my 22" BD dead center.

5. 100% heel down
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2004, 01:25 PM »

1 ) Early 80s DW 5000 ( It is lighter than the current version so I get better speed out of it)
I use a variety of beaters, most recently a DW
reversible beater. Occasionally I'll put the weight on it for a heavier feel.

2) Medium spring tension

3) Moderate angle

4) Shaft length: Medium

5) 80/20 on heel to toe stuff.

Also have an old Rogers Swivomatic pedal with the single piece footboard and a leather strap which I think is the fastest (for me) pedal I've ever played. Similar settings with that.
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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2004, 05:26 PM »

Custom built longboard on Iron Cobra platform

Axis Sonic Hammers

Spring tension- 4

Footboard nearly flat at head impact

Beater Shaft- medium short (Huh)

90/10-  heel up/heel down





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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2004, 07:00 PM »

Let me check the name of my pedals again...

Oh, yeah!

Iron Cobra!   Grin

I have two 22 x 16 Conaway Cannons fired by two Tama Iron Cobra Power Glides on Remo P3 heads with Cobra's felt or wood hammers, depending on the venue.

I have my spring tension as tight as they will go to promote that snap action and keep the foot board in contact with my foot on the up stroke.

When the beater hits the head my footboard is nearly flat.  I believe that limiting the footboard's full capable stroke may increase speed, however negates volume.

Like many others, the Cobra's shaft is nearly fully extended to strike the head's sweet spot.  I do not shorten the shaft to increase speed and/or attack, nor do I lengthen it to increase volume with a lengthened arc.

I play about 90% heel up.  Very rarely do I rest my heel when playing.  I feel better prepared to strike if my heel is up.
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