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« on: July 28, 2004, 12:53 PM » |
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i wanted to know if anybody knows how to play bonhams right foot triplets... i think thats what they would be called.. like in good times bad times... there has to be a certain technique like rolling your foot or something...
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2004, 01:21 PM » |
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i wanted to know if anybody knows how to play bonhams right foot triplets... i think thats what they would be called.. like in good times bad times... there has to be a certain technique like rolling your foot or something...
Somebody else would probably be better to describe an exact technique, but I've done it without doing anything that I would call "special", except for "practice". Like your handle, he used a Speed King to accomplish the triplets. I was using a Speed King (back in the day) when I got their first album (new) and thought that he was using double-bass. I was corrected by a drumming friend. I practiced a lot to that album, and like I said, I think it's more practice than technique. |
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2004, 02:39 PM » |
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In "Good Times, Bad Times", at least with the first section (and I've verified this with the music from a Hal Leonard book), they are actually quick doubles followed by a stroke on the hat; a triplet nonetheless, but certainly not wholly by the foot. Now, I'm not remembering whether an actual bass-drum -triplet was played by him throughout the course of this song (edit: a review of the track in question sounds to me like double strokes on the faster bass drum patterns).
I can play them heel-down; I just play two strokes very quickly. Let the beater rebound off the head. It's really on par with a double stroke performed by the hand.
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I'm not a particularly slow player, yet I don't play fast. I play half-fast.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2004, 06:15 PM » |
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I play the doubles in triplet time idea with heel up, sort of letting the leg fall while the foot hits once almost on the toes and then again with the foot flatter, so it's one movement with the foot moving up. That probably makes no sense but what can ya do, but doubles in triplet time can be done with heel up, practise Since I've Been Loving You to get the feel of them and then you can move up to Good Times.
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2004, 02:16 AM » |
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I have a Warner Bros transcription book " Drum techniques of Led Zeppelin". This has the notes you need. If you don't read, the book is easy to follow and a good way to start reading as it is something that has your attention. My favourite to get the Bonham foot going is Immigrant song . I use heel/ toe method and play into the head.
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2004, 07:44 PM » |
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anyone tried the "i cant quit you babe" kick triplet on lz1 ?
hat kik kik hat kik kik kik * *
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2004, 08:09 AM » |
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Let your foot slide up the footboard towards the head as you drop your leg to execute the triplet.
You'll have to practise this to get the balance and feel correct.
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2004, 09:16 AM » |
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anyone tried the "i cant quit you babe" kick triplet on lz1 ?
hat kik kik hat kik kik kik * *
Yep, that one's even more fun than "Good Times Bad Times". That album, er, CD, taught me a lot about bass drumming technique, especially when it was first released and I was about 15 or 16. back in the day |
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2004, 01:28 PM » |
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For those interested in great foot exercises, check out Colin Bailey's books on Bass Drum technique.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2004, 01:45 PM » |
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i practiced it like this: 2/4 time
s s
h h h h
bb bb bb bb
this gives me like a good bouncy feel in my foot.
the triplets are played between the hat and bd.
you can also apply 16's to this concept.
hope it can help!
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2004, 09:06 PM » |
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To get the fast doubles off, you can do a heel-toe motion (if your feet are under size 12 or so), or otherwise just use a sliding technique as found on dave weckl's "back to basics" video. Basically, you do a stroke on the sweet spot of the pedal, (just below the half way point), and then slide your foot up (not too much) for the second stroke. You can also adapt it to use a pivoting motion, so your foot stays more in the same place rather than sliding up the pedal (a la Virgil Donati).
These techniques do take a good amount of practice to get down, so don't expect it to come right away. Chances are you'll have to do a lot of shin-burning excercises with the pedal, starting very slowly, to really get the right muscles snapping the doubles off.
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