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« on: August 06, 2002, 06:32 AM »

There was thread awhile back about drum screens where Bart mentioned that making your own is really easy and less expensive that buying one of the pre made ones. Well, I have researched it a little and I definitely agree with him on all points. Plexiglass/polycarbonate sheet is not that hard to work with and can easily be machined.

Has anyone made their own screen? How did you do it? What materials did you use?

In particular, I'm interested in what type of sound absorbing materials, if any, you used? I know acoustic foam is made just for this, but I am on a limited budget and was wondering if anyone has used any common materials-  like carpet padding or that cheap bed mattress foam - anybody used anything cheap that worked well?
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2002, 08:23 AM »

I never used anything cheap that worked well.  But you can get 1"   "eggshell" foam (the stuff they pack computer parts with) pretty cheap.  You can also talk to Rich Pollack at noise-busters.com  He is awesome for finding foam and studio stuff at low prices

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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2002, 11:03 AM »

The foam is a great idea, if you are in studio or live.  But how would you make it look nice if you were putting it on clear Plexiglass?  I mean, the sight of heave duty adhesive on the back of foam doesn't sound as if it would look very nice.  Naturally I'm talking about in a live situation, I could give a crap what things look like in the studio.   Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2002, 11:05 AM »

The plan is to only use plexiglass in the top portion, so I won't be totally hidden from view. The lower portion receiving the foam (or whatever) would be plywood or something.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2002, 01:29 PM »

The only thing I wouldn't like about the plywood/foam combo is that you are getting into some heavy stuff there, and I like as little weight as possible when loading in and out (especially out).  Maybe paint the front of the plexiglass to hide the foam and just glue the foam directly to the plexiglass?
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2002, 01:54 PM »

Paint the back of the plexiglass (the side facing you) -- it'll look a lot smoother (I worked in a pet store for a summer and painted a lot of fishtanks).
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2002, 09:23 PM »

Paint the back of the plexiglass (the side facing you) -- it'll look a lot smoother

(the other advantage of painting the inside of the screen is that carting won't scratch the paint off)

...you should rough up (course sanding) the plexiglass before painting, and use a good primer in the color you want to show because adhesion would be better with a primer, especially if you're gluing a layer of foam over it.

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2002, 04:16 AM »

OK. I appreciate all the advice about painting the plexiglass and which side to paint and all that. However the main reason I would be using plexiglass is so I can see through it and the other musicians can see me. The stuff is too expensive to paint over when I can use something solid that is cheaper (hence the plywodd on the bottom part of the screen). Also, I failed to mention that I won't be transporting the screen really at all. The drums haven't mioved from the church in a few years, and even if we did move them to play somewhere, chances are we won't need the screen.

So getting back to the original question, what are some common materials anyone has had success with as a sound absorber in this type of application?
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2002, 04:26 AM »

Do you know the difference between sound absorbtion and sound barrier?  You asked for sound absorbtion on your sound barrier.  Plexiglass is a sound barrier.  I know of no transparent sound absorbing materials (foam, carpet, whatever).

You are looking for a sound barrier.  Acoustics First sells a clear sound barrier sheet at around $5.00 /sq. foot.

I would stick with the plexiglass and have some foam type of absorbtion behind you...then you can see your church buddies as they are doing the "quake" and then you can keep your drum noise down.  Check out auralex.com for those barrier type absorbers (sunburst)arrays.  They also have isolation type/booth-panel deals.

But I like my idea the best/plexiglass in front with foam absorbtion behind you.  You can pay me later for my consultation fee.
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2002, 04:35 AM »

Sorry Felix - don't go out and start your consultation business just yet!

The more I post, the more I realize I don't explain myself very well.

I do realize the difference between sound absorption and a sound barrier. I plan to use sound absorption on the lower part of the barrier (screen) (the plywood part) to minimize the reflection of sound back to the wall behind me. No sound absorption on the upper part (plexiglass, so I can see when the band leader gives a cue to end the song, plus I occassionally lead worship from the drums, so visiblity is important). And I plan to use sound absorption behind me as well, especially since there is a really smooth hard wall about 2 feet behind me!
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