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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2008, 11:33 AM »

If someone told me this at an initial rehearsal i dont know how id react. When a tune is new and you are unsure of a given section while performing it live im not really glued to anyones eyes for help, its usually more of watching body language from the corner of your eye for affirmation with a given part. To hear this at a first rehearsal id be thinking what a bunch of schmucks.
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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2008, 04:00 PM »

Nick makes some really good points.
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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2008, 04:52 PM »

You are not going to do that with rehearsals that are that too far apart, you will have forgotten all the nuances that you need to lock into your brain in a week, never mind two weeks... Once they are locked in fine... they should stay put, but you need regular repetition at close intervals to get it in there.
Until they put themselves in your shoes, and realise that you all need to ‘woodshed*’ together to get it locked in you are in for a long tedious fight...

Thanks, Nick, for your very thorough and wise comments; I think the same, and I started the topic to make sure that I'm right.
The part I quote from your message may be the most important thing that I've been trying to make them understand, but they won't. So it really is a long tedious fight.
I sometimes wonder why I don't quit them, but then I think how much my skills have improved these months, and I sort of take the whole thing as a good school with strict and blockhead teachers who teach you very good things even though in the wrong way. And since I've been with this band, it's much easier to play well and do nuances with my other band.
 
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2008, 02:43 PM »

Any genre you play, communication, communication, communication.  Eye contact both on stage and at practice has always been very critical to me.  Eventually, if you can stick it out that long with this band, you will be able to anticipate their grooves even when they stray.  One of the reasons I love playing jazz, the opportunities to improvise are endless...  I still remember getting into it with a bass player years and years ago, playing Broken Hearted Savior (Big Head Todd) and I was not too familiar with it yet, I missed a tempo change and he got all ticked, said we will not play this song until I got it right, I had been asking him for a copy of the song for weeks just so I could listen to it and figure it out.  Got a copy of it, played it great the next few weeks, then we kicked him out of the band.  I am still playing that cover, ha ha ha....
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2008, 06:27 PM »

Disregarding everything and referring only to the original post:
There is definitely a mid point between relying solely on eye contact and nods and relying only on reading your parts. 

Also, I feel the need to point out that this whole post was a really good conversation and I myself learned a lot just by reading it!  Props to everybody
-Aaron
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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2008, 02:38 PM »

... I myself learned a lot just by reading it!

So did I. Smiley
Thanks again for all the remarks.
 
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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2008, 11:16 PM »

Another thing to keep in mind is that you can learn something from every experience and pretty much everyone around you. Sometimes that lesson can be to NOT be like that person or not to act a certain way, but you can usually always learn something. I honestly have never heard of a band that wants to play that way. In my experience, you get to the point of not needing the occasional eye contact or nod through experience with each other and playing the material. On another note, Nick cracked me up with the * comments!
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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2008, 09:18 AM »

Not only is it much better when you can tell a band is playing a a group
but also from the perspective of actually being in the band - without communication
how do you expect to get any sort of chemistry.  Those looks, nods, movements are just simple ways of working together. 
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