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Gear / Equipment / Instruments / Re: Rusty cases = rusty gear?
« Last post by skn on June 20, 2014, 07:36 PM »
Thanks Bart,

I did a bit of research and read arguments for/against steel wool, but I think it may be the only thing for it.

Any other ideas about these cases though guys? Could that really be what's done it?!

I have used WD-40 before, but it tends to create a bit of mess - maybe I've been using too much in the past.

In any case, I'll let you know how it goes.

Technique(s) / Re: Vic Firth Moeller Technique lesson
« Last post by Bart Elliott on June 20, 2014, 09:40 AM »
Thanks for sharing, Bill.

If anyone is looking to improve their hands and technique, I highly recommend subscribing to Bill's educational site, DrumWorkout.com.

Also be sure to pick-up Bill's book, Stick Technique the Essential Guide for the Modern Drummer
Technique(s) / Vic Firth Moeller Technique lesson
« Last post by Bill Bachman on June 17, 2014, 11:34 PM »
Here's a lesson of mine that VF just up on the Moeller "whip & flop" technique. I hope it helps some of you guys out!

Gear / Equipment / Instruments / Re: Rusty cases = rusty gear?
« Last post by Bart Elliott on June 12, 2014, 08:33 PM »
I use Cinch and #0000 Steel Wool when cleaning my hardware ... removing the residue left by the environment and my hands. This helps prevent the pitting as well. DO NOT USE THE STEEL WOOL ON THE SHELL. This is only for the chrome plated hoops/rims. Be mindful of the plating, and make sure you don't peel any off as you work the small rusted areas. The rust will come back, even if you remove it, because there is no longer any plating there to protect the metal.

I'd go to the hardware store and look at the products offered for cleaning rust. Whatever you use, go with very small amounts and work a small area at a time. The little bit of rust work I've had to do ... I've used WD-40 and my #0000 Steel Wool, and had positive results.
Gear / Equipment / Instruments / Re: Rusty cases = rusty gear?
« Last post by skn on June 11, 2014, 06:14 AM »
Oh and if possible, is there a remedy out there for saving the cases?

And what is best to clean early rust from drum hoops?

Gear / Equipment / Instruments / Rusty cases = rusty gear?
« Last post by skn on June 10, 2014, 07:00 AM »
I guess it stands to common sense. I purchased a set of second hand hardcases from an op shop. 3 toms and a snare for $150. Excellent condition - no qualms at all. A steal. I did notice at the time of purchasing that they smelt kinda peculiar, but thought perhaps it was the foam inside them. I also noticed that the rivets holding the foam to the hardcase itself was rusty. But these cases looked about 2 years old, hardly a scratch on them. Anyway, I kept my snare drum in one of them for about a week - maybe less. The snare has die cast hoops which were painted. After years of use from rim-shots and the snarestand cradle, the paint has chipped away and left the exposed metal rim.

The drum now looks and mostly feels like it's been left near the sea... kinda chalky feel on the exposed metal which does rub off quite easily, but got me thinking...

Have I simply not noticed this before, or has the snare caught the rust from the rivets?

Like I said, common sense, but I didn't think it'd be this rapid.

The toms (chrome die cast hoops) are fine, but now I'm nervous about storing my kit in the cases - perhaps why they were ditched in the first place.

Any assistance would be killer.


Gear / Equipment / Instruments / Re: Advise On Amp Please
« Last post by Bart Elliott on May 31, 2014, 10:30 AM »
I would go with the Simmons amp. It's going to be worth the extra money.

Report back here to let us know how you like it!
Gear / Equipment / Instruments / Re: Advise On Amp Please
« Last post by Ricky Rosario on May 30, 2014, 10:26 AM »
Thank you for the reply.

I apologize that the links did not work. Odd.

This is the bundle BTW:



And the Roland Monitor:



I'll probably just go with the Simmons.
Gear / Equipment / Instruments / Re: Advise On Amp Please
« Last post by Bart Elliott on May 30, 2014, 02:34 AM »
Some of your links are broken in your original post, so I wasn't able to look at all that you are considering ... especially since you didn't give a description for each.

In regards to the Yamaha MS40-DR Electronic Drum Personal Monitor System, it's available on Amazon for $269.


I would personally go with the Simmons DA200S Electronic Drum Set Monitor simply because it is all-in-one, making it easier to cart around (despite the almost 60lbs weight), and has a higher wattage amp ... 100-watt low-frequency amp with two 50-watt mid- and high-frequency amps ... meaning cleaner sound (less distortion) with increased volumes. Cost is $320 on Amazon.


With the money you save, you can purchase the Yamaha PCY90AT 10" Cymbal Pad, only $100 from Amazon.


Keep in mind that the "free" stuff isn't always free ... the package is priced in such a way that you are paying something for the "freebie".

P.S. You can support the Drummer Cafe by making your Amazon purchases using our Amazon search feature (<------ see on the left), and it doesn't cost you an extra dime!
Gear / Equipment / Instruments / Re: Advise On Amp Please
« Last post by Ricky Rosario on May 29, 2014, 06:14 PM »
Someone recommended this one over the other two, but it doesn't come with the free Yamaha PCY90AT 10" Cymbal Pad:


Thanks again gents.
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