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Technique(s) / Re: Notation qestions
« Last post by Bart Elliott on January 20, 2014, 09:58 PM »
I've a question from someone who either writes a little notation on the side of a chord or number chart in the rare case when there's not time to straight-up memorize a part -- when is such music used when recording? I know it must be, but I've never seen examples.

I'm not sure that I understand your question. Could you rephrase the question a little differently?
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Technique(s) / Re: Notation qestions
« Last post by Joe on January 20, 2014, 06:31 PM »
Charts?? This is straight-up music, isn't it? Good job!

I've a question from someone who either writes a little notation on the side of a chord or number chart in the rare case when there's not time to straight-up memorize a part -- when is such music used when recording? I know it must be, but I've never seen examples.
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Technique(s) / Re: Notation qestions
« Last post by Scot Holder on January 17, 2014, 08:52 PM »
Thank you David!  Your explanations are very helpful. I am new to music notation for any instrument and I have struggled a bit with how to properly represent note duration with drums.  Your advice to represent duration based on how the other instruments play the music seems so intuitive, but it didn't dawn on me until you said it 'out loud' - thanks!

As for the up/down rests, my original intention was to declutter the staff.  But, again, your clear explanation was an 'ah ha' moment for me.  It may be a small thing, but most things we do are about getting the small things right.

Thanks again!
Scot
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And now the site with 3 sample tunes is up: http://spokeofshadows.wix.com/spokeofshadows
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General Board / Re: Andy Ziker joins DRUM! Magazine team
« Last post by David Kayser on January 14, 2014, 09:59 PM »
Congratz!
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General Board / Re: Andy Ziker joins DRUM! Magazine team
« Last post by Jeff Johnson on January 14, 2014, 09:19 PM »

Congratulations!  It was great to see you again at PASIC.  Keep in touch.

Jeff

Jeff Johnson
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Technique(s) / Re: Notation qestions
« Last post by David Crigger on January 14, 2014, 05:00 PM »
Scot -

As for #1 - you can either tie the 1/8th note to an 1/8th note (as you have in the stems up part of the 1st example) or you can define the space with a 1/8th rest as you have in the second example. Best rule of thumb I can think of for deciding which is to sing the music that goes with that part - in other words, how does everyone else play that "& of 4"? Do they play it short with a space between it and the note on the "& or 1" - or - do they play it as a long accented note? More than likely it will be best to write it for the drummer in a way that reflects what they are doing... even if the percussion note (tom, snare or bass drum) being played has no ability to change its duration. Cluing the drummer into what others are playing and how they are phrasing it is always a good idea.

2. Yes. This is actually the fatal flaw in both of these examples - making them at the very least, extremely difficult to read, let alone sight-read.

In any stems up/stems down part - be it drum set or a piano or violin part - promoting rhythmic comprehension ALWAYS takes precedence over any general rules as to which and where stems go up and go down.

Harking back to the early days of marching drum parts, drum set parts are most often written in a "two part" divisi style - meaning one parts stems up and one part stems down sharing the same single staff. This usually means grouping all of the notes being played into two rhythmically complete parts. This is often "hands up and feet down" - but can also be "bass drum/snare drum down and HH/Cyms up".

And depending the notes being played, oftentimes one section of the music works better grouped one way and other a different way... this is perfectly fine and pretty much standard practice. But at any given time, each group - stems up and stems down - must be rhythmically complete and readable as it's own entity.

Below are what the first two bars would look like grouped in two different ways...

One final thought - with drum set being intended be read by a single player - the rules are pretty fluid - with the focus all about being as readable as possible with as little clutter. So for instance if after a full set section, there's a section of just solo snare drum or HH 16ths for eight bars, there's no reason to slavishly write in all the whole note rests for stems down parts... as they aren't really separate parts being played be separate people, but part of one part for one player.

Yet another "final" thought - I know of no notation software that wants to write good drum parts without being forced, tricked and finagled into doing so. It is literally the worst thing they do. Why? Because the stems up/stems down aspect of drum set parts, unlike most other parts, follow a very involved and highly subjective set of "rules" - so besides the fact that they require the use of multiple layers per staff (like in divisi part), they don't follow any simple rule for doing so.) As a result it takes many, many times longer to notate a drum set part really well compared to say a bass or saxophone part.

Hope that helps,

David

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Music, Musicians & Musicianship / Re: Love this!
« Last post by JeepnDrummer on January 14, 2014, 12:24 AM »
Agreed that he has many talents.  And while I'm sure he can out sing me with one vocal chord tied behind his throat, it seemed to me he was trying to sound too much like Sting.
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Music, Musicians & Musicianship / Re: Love this!
« Last post by Chip Donaho on January 13, 2014, 12:22 PM »
Steve and Bart....Thanks for the link. The entire band was outstanding.   8)
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Music, Musicians & Musicianship / Re: Love this!
« Last post by Bart Elliott on January 13, 2014, 09:44 AM »
Yes. Robert Downey Jr. has certainly proven himself to be multi-talented. He can, and is, making another vocation with his music.
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