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Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: ZilBel on May 10, 2005, 08:59 AM
Hi everybody,
I'm doing a special on my radio show which will be called "odd-time hour". The playlist will include partly popular songs that have odd-time signature (mostly 5 or 7).
I'm looking for songs that are not releated to prog-rock, jazz or world music - odd-time wouldnt be a problem there....
Here's some:
Sting - Seven Days/I was brought to my senses and more
sound garden -spoonman
Incubus - Nice to know you.
Pink Floyd - Money
Foo Fighters - Times Like These (havent heard it yet)

Do you guys have some more ideas?! need to fill an hour...

thanks!!


Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Stewart Manley on May 10, 2005, 09:05 AM
Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Mission Impossible theme - Lalo Schifrin (note, the original TV theme, not the execrable "disco" remake in four from the movie)
Turn it on Again - Genesis
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Jon E on May 10, 2005, 09:08 AM
The Ocean ~Lep Zep

Rockaway Beach (parts of it) ~Ramones

Take 5  ~Dave Brubeck (everyone knows this one)

Free Will  ~Rush
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: ZilBel on May 10, 2005, 09:19 AM
Mission Impossible theme -awesome!!!

I'll listen to the other, the take 5 is quite obivious. Rush has lots of songs in odd-time (mostly 7/8). Im trying to avoid prog-rock stuff.

thanks!

Anyone has more suggestions?
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: BigBillInBoston on May 10, 2005, 09:21 AM
Jethro Tull's biggest radio hit was in 5/4. I can hum the melody but don't remember the name of the song... ??? Anyone else?

BigBill
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: BigBillInBoston on May 10, 2005, 09:25 AM
Jethro Tull's biggest radio hit was in 5/4. I can hum the melody but don't remember the name of the song... ??? Anyone else?

BigBill

Stop the Presses!! I quick Google reminded me..."Living in the Past"
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Stewart Manley on May 10, 2005, 09:36 AM
Two Beatles tunes spring to mind:

All You Need Is Love
Here Comes the Sun (I had to look this one up) with 11/8, 4/4, and 7/8 passages in the chorus.
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Jon E on May 10, 2005, 09:36 AM
Tattooed Love Boys  ~Pretenders

The end of "I Love Rock n Roll" by Joan Jett (it has some 4/4,3/4 measure pairs in it.

Blue Rondo ala Turk ~Dave Brubeck (another song many have heard but don't know the title).
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: ZilBel on May 10, 2005, 09:47 AM
Blue Rondo ala Turk ~Dave Brubeck (another song many have heard but don't know the title).

Is that in 9/8? can't remember.

Just remeberd : Alice In Chains - Them Bones. A bit too loud for my show, though.
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: vertijoe on May 10, 2005, 09:56 AM
Money - Pink Floyd (7/4)

Oops.  In your original post...never mind.
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Stewart Manley on May 10, 2005, 09:58 AM
Is that in 9/8? can't remember.

Yep, phrased 2-2-2-3.
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: 7lazy8 on May 10, 2005, 10:04 AM
You could check out Metallica's "...And Justice for All" album.  Just about every song has sections of odd time.  Also, check out Tool's Lateralus.  There's a lot of 5/4  as well as some 7/4 on that disc.

This is a very good idea for a radio show by the way.  It's something that musicians can appreciate more so than the masses.  :)
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Stewart Manley on May 10, 2005, 10:08 AM
Radiohead does a fair amount of stuff in odd time, apparently.
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Jon E on May 10, 2005, 10:23 AM
Doesn't that OutKast tune (the "shake it like a polaroid picture" tune) have some odd time in it?  Some 4/4 6/4 mixing?
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: DougB on May 10, 2005, 10:37 AM
Come On Eileen by Dixie Midnight Runners has some odd speed changes, but I'm not sure about the time signature.
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Steve Phelps (Shoeless) on May 10, 2005, 10:52 AM
Do show tunes count?

America from West Side Story and
Everything's Alright from Jesus Christ Superstar

4 More from Sting
Love Is Stronger Than Justice  from 10 Summoners tales is in 7 and I think Saint Augustine In Hell is too

I Hung my Head from Mercury Falling is in 9

and Straight to My Heart

Outkast's "Hey Ya" three measures of 4/4 one measure of 2/4 and then two measures of 4/4 again. So what's that? 22/4

Metallica had a bunch. Look on And Justice for All

Blondie's Heart of Glass has section in 7
so does the Bee Gee's Jive Talkin

Whipping Post, Allman Bros.

PJ Harvey's Dry

Nine Inch Nails Downward Spiral and March of the Pigs (is that prog?)

Beatles Within You, Without You

Led Zeppelin's The Crunge

The Police, Mother

The Cars, Touch and Go and Panorama

Roxy Music, Amazona

There was this rap tune with Coolio and Janet Jackson that I never could figure out



OOPS, didn't see the above posts






Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Jon E on May 10, 2005, 11:36 AM
A lot of the tunes mentioned hava few bars here and there of odd time, but very few are written entirely in an odd time signature.

Guess ya gotta to Greece (I always like to mention Yanni at this point) and other places for REAL odd time stuff (but then again, it wouldn't be ODD to them now would it??!!)
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Drumodad on May 10, 2005, 11:59 AM
They may be too brash for your show,but just about any Tool song. Or any thin Carey plays on. Adrian Belew just put out a new cd ,Side One with Danny Carey and Les Claypool on it.The standout here is Ampersand which is mostly 7/4,4/4 and a bit of 6/4. Alot of  Perfect Circle. Maybe this would qualify as progressive rock.
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Dead Trooper on May 10, 2005, 12:04 PM
I don't think Times Like These is in any odd time, seems pretty straight forward. Great song though.

Everybody has metioned Sting's Ten Summoners Tales record, it's full of groovie odd time (killer drumming on it).

EDIT: not Get the Funk Out, but Cupid's Dead by Extreme is in some odd time signature, but it grooves like mad too.

Jethro Tull was mentioned and I really think there's a lot of well known stuff by them that's odd.
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: mudpuppy on May 10, 2005, 12:23 PM
Try listening to some Tower of Power.
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Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Stewart Manley on May 10, 2005, 12:24 PM
America from West Side Story

That's in 6/8, so it's not odd.  ;)

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Outkast's "Hey Ya" three measures of 4/4 one measure of 2/4 and then two measures of 4/4 again. So what's that? 22/4

No. It's three measures of 4/4 one measure of 2/4 and then two measures of 4/4.
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Jon E on May 10, 2005, 12:28 PM
Doesn't "Four Sticks" by Zepellin start out in 5/4?
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: sletti on May 10, 2005, 01:10 PM
the ahghan whigs "i'm her slave" is 3/4
"leper messiah" by metallica is 5/4 and you can even hear lars count it out in 5.
"mars, bringer of war" by holst is a cool classical tune in 5/4.
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: ZilBel on May 11, 2005, 04:54 AM
thanks guys, but apartanly its not that easy to find popular songs in odd-time (which are not prog or metal).  

Do you might have more ideas? I cant fill an hour....  Doesnt Paul Simon have something in odd time? I remeberd another song by temple of the dog and maybe Dave Matthews' Satellite which mostly 6/8 and some bars of 9/8... but it isnt what im looking for....

anyways, while you at it, try listening to the link im adding, its a cool funky song By "Right on Time" called Glee. (chours is on 5/8...... :))

Enjoy.
(if you have new ideas please post them here)

http://stage.co.il/media/rightontime414315.mp3
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Jon E on May 11, 2005, 06:36 AM
I guess it depends on your meaning of the word "popular".  If you mean "popular" in the sense that it is played on Western, mainstream, Top 40 radio, then NO you aren't likely to find much.  If you mean popular as in "popular with drummers", I could give you a list as long as my arm.

The tunes I listed for you are things I thought the "average" person MAY have heard a time or two in their life--even if they weren't familiar with the composer/band.
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: taterocity on May 11, 2005, 07:01 AM
Most late 70's early 80's Rush has a lot of odd time.

Heck! Why not Dream Theater? I don't think they've ever even written a 4/4 measure.

"Paranoid Android" by Radiohead is mostly (if not all) in 7/8

A lot stuff on Kid A and Amnesiac is odd and "2+2=5" from their latest (which was a single, I believe) is in 7/8 as well.

A lot of Police, some Genesis, even (gasp) Coldplay plays with some time on their albums.

Hey you could even play one of my bands, Motiema, we got a lot of odd time. Lol...nevermind.
 
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: taterocity on May 11, 2005, 07:01 AM
Also from Soundgarden, "Outshined" is 7/4
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: KevinD on May 11, 2005, 09:06 AM
The Allman Brothers."Whipping Post" is a Classic Rock radio staple.  Haven't heard it in a while but there are some interesting measures of 11/8 in the theme and the song has a very cool 6/8 type feel throughout.
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Drumodad on May 11, 2005, 10:16 AM
The Core by Eric Clapton,of course its Gadd playing.
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: DougB on May 11, 2005, 11:05 AM
Odd time signatures = not popular on radio

radio stations want to play standard 4/4 songs that the non-musician appreciates

especially if they want any danceability
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Adam's Dad on May 11, 2005, 12:12 PM
My favorite Soundgarden tune - Fell on Black Days - 7/4.
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: DaveGink on May 11, 2005, 11:22 PM
Toadies - Possum Kingdom
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Eskil Sæter on May 12, 2005, 01:13 AM
"leper messiah" by metallica is 5/4 and you can even hear lars count it out in 5.

That's just a joke. The song is in 4/4
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: sletti on May 12, 2005, 02:26 AM
hmmm..ok.  i wasn't basing that statement on the count at the beginning; it always seemed like actual 5/4 to me.  i've certainly been wrong before.
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: a surfr uc on May 12, 2005, 08:42 AM
Well by odd time if you mean anything not 4/4, there's our National Anthem  ;D

Murder By Numbers (The Police)has some crazy modulations over the bar - my band used to play it and people loved it.

A Perfect Circle has some interesting but they're kinda "proggy". Why are you avoiding prog? That genre is "chockful" o' odd times.





Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: TamaDrummer on May 12, 2005, 12:54 PM
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Also, check out Tool's Lateralus.  There's a lot of 5/4  as well as some 7/4 on that disc.

I believe this would fit in with the prog-rock category he is trying to avoid.  However, the album does have a lot of odd times.  

I believe its "Lateralus" the song, wherein much of the song is phrased:
9-8-7

Very cool stuff in my opinion.

Staind-So Far Away (in 3)
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: chillman4130 on May 12, 2005, 10:48 PM
I will second Peter Gabriel's "Solsbury Hill" and The Beatles' "All You Need is Love" and "Here Comes The Sun" because they are some of the most "pop" of all the songs listed here.
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Drumodad on May 12, 2005, 11:05 PM
Another Clapton song,Forever Man
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Steve Phelps (Shoeless) on May 13, 2005, 07:24 AM
Another Clapton song,Forever Man

Perhaps not
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: a surfr uc on May 13, 2005, 07:39 AM
How about Baracuda by Heart? It was popular and they snuck n a few measures of 7.
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Drumodad on May 13, 2005, 11:40 AM
Perhaps not
Oops,I`m sorry,just learning to count you know.
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Ranman on May 13, 2005, 12:47 PM
I think this tread should be a keeper!.

A great reference in a study of "odd-time signatures".

I think thats the great thing about Drummer Cafe...it usefulness increase everyday.
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Christopher on May 13, 2005, 12:57 PM
The Core by Eric Clapton,of course its Gadd playing.

What a great tune that is. The bell part alone is too cool for words.

But it's not Mr. Gadd.

It's actually a guy named Jamie Oldaker, who played on that and all the other tracks on Clapton's  http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/6790744/a/Slowhand.htm]Slowhand .
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: ElNegro on May 13, 2005, 02:11 PM
"Fill her up" by Sting. it appears on the Brand New Day album.

I think it ends in a odd time signature. I can't remember what.
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: ben on May 13, 2005, 04:51 PM
I remeberd another song by temple of the dog

I believe it's "Pushin' Forward Back" which seems to be in 7/8. Btw, the whole Temple Of The Dog album is great and contains some oustanding work by Matt Cameron.
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Drumodad on May 13, 2005, 09:39 PM
What a great tune that is. The bell part alone is too cool for words.

But it's not Mr. Gadd.

It's actually a guy named Jamie Oldaker, who played on that and all the other tracks on Clapton's  http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/6790744/a/Slowhand.htm]Slowhand .
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Thanks for the correction Christopher,whenever I hear a great groove on a Clapton song I ,wrongfully, assume its Gadd.I will do more research before I post something that I`m not 100% on.
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Christopher on May 14, 2005, 07:26 PM
whenever I hear a great groove on a Clapton song I ,wrongfully, assume its Gadd.

I know what you mean. Gadd is one of those guys that you just figure is playing the coolest of the cool if you hear something from an artist that he's played with.

But Jamie rocks too.

And by the way, you cost me $11.99.  ;) I was forced to buy Slowhand from BestBuy when I found myself there earlier tonight and I realized that I didn't have it on CD.  ;D

Not so sure the tune should be in this thread though as its in 4/4, but I clipped a little of the song to let everyone else revisit what an awesome groove Jamie lays down.

Check out the feel, the sticking, the bell and what his left hand is doing during the chorus and sax/guitar solo parts.

Sweet stuff, my favorite Clapton song.

Turn it up real loud and check out…  http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ckkod/thecore.mp3]The Core.mp3
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Drumodad on May 15, 2005, 10:10 PM
Christopher,thanks for not yelling at me,guess I`m just having one of those weeks.Sorry about the $11.99.Now you can listen to it over and over and over................
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: SevenStoryDrop on May 17, 2005, 01:09 PM
Outshined by Soundgarden,
Pretty Penny by Stone Temple Pilots.
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: JazzDrummer on May 18, 2005, 05:44 AM
John Miles - Music (there's a 7/8 part)
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Post by: harpomarx on May 23, 2005, 07:48 AM
Pink Floyd are not Prog Rock???????
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: 7lazy8 on May 23, 2005, 08:46 AM
God--Tori Amos
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Post by: felix on May 23, 2005, 03:34 PM
yeah, we play *outshined* and *possum kingdom*- they go over pretty good.
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: KevinD on May 23, 2005, 07:04 PM
"Africa" by Toto.  Lots of subtle shifts of meter throughout.  
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: glamrocker on May 24, 2005, 04:28 PM
GOLDEN BROWN  by the Stranglers   3 bars of3/4 followed bt a 4/4 bar  (or that COULD be rwo bars of 3/4 followed by a 7/4 bar)    Also another Stranglers one is "Nice and Sleazy"   I havent really thought about the time signature but it IS does have a 6/4 bar (or two 3/4 bars) thrown in to trip up drummers
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: glamrocker on May 24, 2005, 04:29 PM
PS.. Pink Floyd are SOOO! prog rock!
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: glamrocker on May 24, 2005, 04:32 PM
a LOT of Jethro tull songs have shifting time signatures the break in the middle of "songs from the wood" is WELL weird!
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: glamrocker on May 24, 2005, 04:34 PM
Gypsies ,Tramps and theives  by Cher   suss THAT one out!
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: cragar on May 27, 2005, 02:58 PM
Anything by YES.
And for jazz stuff....oh man, DON ELLIS. some 21/4's and that's the easy charts.
Title: Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: Paul DAngelo on May 27, 2005, 03:14 PM
"The Tango King" off of Bruce Hornsby's "Hot House" CD is in 9/8 but has a natural feel.  Great song, fun to play along with.
Title: Re:Pouplar songs with odd-time signature?!
Post by: ProudArmenian on May 28, 2005, 11:08 AM
Schism by Tool is in 15/8 then goes to 12, 13, 14, etc. A lot of Tool's stuff has weird time signatures. I've heard some A perfect Circle songs that are in 6/8. Outshined by Soundgarden is 7/4 and  A LOT of Jazz is in odd time signatures.