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Title: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on July 23, 2007, 04:00 PM
Hi Folks,
I know that Pasic is in Columbus Ohio this year and I think from what I read from Larry, it is October 31 - Nov. 3rd.
I would like to know where to find info on cost, what is happening what day and where to find out any other info on the show.  I have never been to one before so other than pictures from last year,  I know nothing. I am going to take some vacation time and at least come up for a few days. Maybe this would be a good thread to start for everyones knowledge? I know Felix, Hannah, Bart, Larry and many more of you have been before. I know that Frank From Newyork was asking about it too.  I know it may be a bit early to start trying to find out details but I thought I would ask anyway? Anything that you veterans can tell us would be helpful ;D??
                                 Thanks,
                                     Nutty
                           
                           
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Louis Russell on July 23, 2007, 04:17 PM
 http://www.pasic.org/ThisYear.cfm]Click Here  for PASIC info.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on July 23, 2007, 04:21 PM
http://www.pasic.org/ThisYear.cfm]Click Here  for PASIC info.
Thank you very much Louis ;).
                          Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: felix on July 24, 2007, 05:37 PM
Hi Nutty.

I will probably go for a couple of days to check out some clinics and some gear.  I probably won't be splitting a DC booth with Bart.  I'm not sure he will even have a booth there this year.  It depends if I can get away from work.

But yeah, as the time approaches, we will have to have a DC hang there I guess.  There is a sushi bar like right there, so we will have to hook up, get buzzed on saki and listen to the ramblings of all the esteemed DC members  8)

Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Bart Elliott on July 24, 2007, 05:38 PM
No Drummer Cafe booth this year ... but I'll be there.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on July 24, 2007, 06:48 PM
No Drummer Cafe booth this year ... but I'll be there.
We can still wear our T's so they feel our presents.  I was posting first on Hannah's
thread on the self absorbed catagory and she will be there and Larry already said he would be there.  There were a few other cafe members that are starting to ask questions like Frank from NewYork. Maybe we will have a good turn out anyway Bart :)?
Felix, I would enjoy having a few drinks with you.
                                         Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Bart Elliott on July 24, 2007, 07:03 PM
Each year we pick a night, usually Friday, to hang and go out to dinner as a group.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mongrel on July 24, 2007, 07:13 PM
so they feel our presents. 

Well, I don't know what kind of people hang out at this 'Pasic' but for the record-NOBODY feels *my* presents!






 :P
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Bart Elliott on July 24, 2007, 07:25 PM
Well, I don't know what kind of people hang out at this 'Pasic' but for the record-NOBODY feels *my* presents!

I was wondering when someone was going to address the typo. I usually fix these, but didn't get to it in time.  8)
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on July 24, 2007, 07:31 PM
Well, I don't know what kind of people hang out at this 'Pasic' but for the record-NOBODY feels *my* presents!
Wow, I am sorry folks but I just thought that wearing a Drummer Cafe T-shirt around a bunch of drummer might at least get someone to ask about The Drummer Cafe?
Maybe it was a bad Idea or maybe I am just wierd?  I know I Nutz but maybe I am selling myself short ;)?  LOL
                       Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Bart Elliott on July 24, 2007, 07:33 PM
Wow, I am sorry folks but I just thought that wearing a Drummer Cafe T-shirt around a bunch of drummer might at least get someone to ask about The Drummer Cafe?
Maybe it was a bad Idea or maybe I am just wierd?  I know I Nutz but maybe I am selling myself short ;)?

It's the typo Nutty. You said "presents" ... but you meant "presence".

Wearing your Drummer Cafe T-shirt, especially at PASIC, is a great idea!
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on July 24, 2007, 07:37 PM
It's the typo Nutty. You said "presents" ... but you meant "presence".

Wearing your Drummer Cafe T-shirt, especially at PASIC, is a great idea!
Thank you Bart,
I do have a brain fart from time to time.  I know I don't spell very well at times.  Ryno and diddle and now you guys are trying to help me with it? It is a problem I have had since I was a child.  Math was a different story. OK, "Presence".
My mother is 71 years old and she has the same problem.
Maybe it is in the Jeans, or is it Gene's or... Oh well, so much for the English language.
                                              Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mongrel on July 24, 2007, 08:23 PM
ahhh....geeez.... :-[

Here I am trying to poke a little fun and now I just feel bad...

Sorry Nutty, just playin' wit cha!   ;D

(Hey if it's any consolation-I SUK at math, which is really why I'm such a poor excuse as a drummer...).

Take care,

Mongrel
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on July 24, 2007, 08:48 PM
ahhh....geeez.... :-[

Here I am trying to poke a little fun and now I just feel bad...

Sorry Nutty, just playin' wit cha!   ;D

(Hey if it's any consolation-I SUK at math, which is really why I'm such a poor excuse as a drummer...).

Take care,

Mongrel
Hey Mongrel,
No offence taken,(I think I spelled offence right) ;D?  My wife is much harder on me about my spelling than you all are. I also have two children at home.  Do you think I have any business teaching them how to spell ::) :-X?  My wife works on the reading and spelling and I work on the Math and now drumming. We are much better off that way ;). It is what it is.
Hope to see some of you at Pasic this year?
                                         Nutty
 
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Louis Russell on July 24, 2007, 09:58 PM
Hay Nutty,

I don't think you knead two worry!  It seams two me that sum words seldom make cents.  The English language, as used buy Americans, is difficult two understand and even harder too right sew it can be understood with know errors.  Think about red and read.  Also think about reed and read.  Read and read spelled the same butt sound a lot different.  Oar how about two, too and to?  If I were you I wood knot worry about being perfect sew long as you get your point across.  OK Guys, how many miss steaks? 
 ;D
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: lrac3 on July 24, 2007, 10:19 PM
no booth this year?  that's a bummer.  i'll definately be there this year.  This should be the 9th one for myself. I'm addicted man!!!
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Hannah Ford on July 24, 2007, 10:45 PM
I'm sure by having a booth Bart probably finds himself unable to leave it for most of the event. Although he enjoys the booth, I'm sure he would love to have the opportunity to check out the clinics and other goodies at PASIC like everyone else.

It's a great convention.  This will be my 5th one!

Bart if you decide to have a dinner with all the DC Members one night please let me know.  The only evening event that I know I'm booked for at the moment will be the Zildjian Artists Party and I'm not sure what night that will be yet.

See everyone there!

Hannah
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Ty Amplechuck on July 24, 2007, 11:07 PM
This is cool, it's only about 1/2 an hour away. If I can make it it'll be great because these kinds of things are usually too far away from me.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on July 24, 2007, 11:31 PM
Hay Nutty,

I don't think you knead two worry!  It seams two me that words seldom make cents.  The English language, as used buy Americans, is difficult two understand and even harder too right sew it can be understood with know errors.  Think about red and read.  Also think about reed and read.  Read and read spelled the same butt sound a lot different.  Oar how about two, too and to?  If I were you I wood knot worry about being perfect sew long as you get your point across.  OK Guys, how many miss steaks? 
 ;D
Thanxs Louis,
My thoughts egg-zackaly.
                   Good kneight Browe!!!
                            Nutz
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: NY Frank on July 25, 2007, 06:32 AM
While I usually avoid car travels, it's not That far from NY, and so, I could be a possibility depending on Stuff.

I sure would love to get to something like that, and then to have it be topped off with some dinner and laughs with some of you - sounds great to me.           8)
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: NY Frank on July 25, 2007, 06:34 AM
I will probably go for a couple of days to check out some clinics and some gear.  I probably won't be splitting a DC booth with Bart.

So, for a newb like me   ;)  , what would your booth be for?
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: felix on July 25, 2007, 07:26 AM
It's a great convention.  This will be my 5th one!

Bart if you decide to have a dinner with all the DC Members one night please let me know.  The only evening event that I know I'm booked for at the moment will be the Zildjian Artists Party and I'm not sure what night that will be yet.

See everyone there!

Hannah

I would bag out on the zildjian artist party or just have your dad go to that one instead.  You need to try to "turn" all of us die hard Paiste and Sabian users here at the cafe.  That's your job now! 
He he he- good luck girl!!!!!!!!!!  No party for you!  :'(  LOL 
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: felix on July 25, 2007, 07:30 AM
So, for a newb like me   ;)  , what would your booth be for?

It's just for people to come up and meet the greatest drummer that ever existed (me).  I sign autographs, photo ops, listen to merchandising deals and refuse them... you know the usual.

Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on July 25, 2007, 07:44 AM
It's just for people to come up and meet the greatest drummer that ever existed (me).  I sign autographs, photo ops, listen to merchandising deals and refuse them... you know the usual.


Felix,
I would just be happy to have a few drinks, good food and BS with with some of you good folks.
It would just be a + to be in the company of the Greatest Drummer that ever existed.(you).
Maybe buy a Cafe T-shirt and get all of your Autograghs on it?? Maybe if I start bothering Paiste right now there is hope for me to play even more Paiste Cymbals?
                                             Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: NY Frank on July 25, 2007, 08:38 AM
It's just for people to come up and meet the greatest drummer that ever existed (me).  I sign autographs, photo ops, listen to merchandising deals and refuse them... you know the usual.

I better bring my camera - and my Sharpie.   :)

Will you sign Anything? 
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Larry Lawless on July 25, 2007, 09:33 AM
Just to let you know, it's not too early to register for PASIC. In fact, the closest hotels are already filling up. Follow the link that Louis gave earlier for convention info, registration and hotels.

Just an overview, the Percussive Arts Society is an international organization of percussionists and drummers from all areas, levels of ability. Current membership is somewhere between 8,000 - 9,000. Members include University professors, symphony orchestra section players, hand drummers, marimba artists, college and high school students, jazz/rock/country drumset artists, etc. Basically, if you hit things to make music, there is something of interest for you in PAS. Membership is just a matter of paying annual dues, with a price break for students. The organization publishes several magazines a year with articles on percussion, news of percussion events around the world, reviews of new music and recordings [shameless self-promotion](the latest issue has a review of the Lawless Percussion and Jazz CD)[/shameless self-promotion]. Each year they hold a convention in different cities in the US, with 4 days of clinics and concerts by the best that percussion has to offer. You must be a member of PAS to attend. There are also contests for marching high school and college drumlines, percussion ensembles, individual solos on marching and concert percussion. And then the exhibit hall .... man, be prepared to be blown away. Every major manufacturer and a ton of little ones has a display with all kinds of stuff to beat on (oops, there is supposed to be a decibel limit, so make that sample tastefully) and many famous people walking around google-eyed like the rest of us. You'll find Remo Belli hanging at his booth, the Zildjian family, Ludwigs, and the artists just being regular folks. A highlight for me at the Nashville PASIC in 2004 was at the Remo booth, I was amused at a youngster showing off his chops on a pad, when I look up to see Ed Thigpen standing there with a half-smile on his face. He leans over to me, shakes my hand and says, "They are literally coming out of the woodwork, aren't they?"

Through the year, PAS also does a lot of behind the scenes work to promote the art of percussion. There are standing committees on just about every aspect of percussion (there's even a special electronic percussion committee) to further the art form. There are also events at the local level. The International organization is divided into Chapters, mostly the 50 United States, but there are chapters in the UK, Germany, Japan, Australia, etc. The chapters usually host a Day of Percussion, kind of a mini PASIC, have a website presence where they announce percussion events in their area, and publish newsletters.

There will not be a DrummerCafe booth this year, as Bart already mentioned. It is very costly, and it ties us down so we don't get to really enjoy the convention. This year, I am the president of the Texas Chapter, so there are a lot of meetings and things that I will have to be at, but I'll be roaming the exhibit hall in my free time. Hope to see a bunch of you there.

- Larry
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on July 25, 2007, 10:29 AM
Just to let you know, it's not too early to register for PASIC. In fact, the closest hotels are already filling up. Follow the link that Louis gave earlier for convention info, registration and hotels.


There will not be a DrummerCafe booth this year, as Bart already mentioned. It is very costly, and it ties us down so we don't get to really enjoy the convention. This year, I am the president of the Texas Chapter, so there are a lot of meetings and things that I will have to be at, but I'll be roaming the exhibit hall in my free time. Hope to see a bunch of you there.

- Larry
Thank you for the great insight Larry.  Looking forward to seeing you 8).
                                   Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Paul DAngelo on July 25, 2007, 10:32 AM
I just checked and found that Columbus is about a 7 hour from my place.  That makes it just about do-able.  I'd love to attend my first PASIC meeting.  I could even wear 2 different style Drummer Cafe tee-shirts (well, not at the same time) to double the impact!
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Brett Sheaffer on July 25, 2007, 11:30 AM
Hay Nutty,

I don't think you knead two worry!  It seams two me that sum words seldom make cents.  The English language, as used buy Americans, is difficult two understand and even harder too right sew it can be understood with know errors.  Think about red and read.  Also think about reed and read.  Read and read spelled the same butt sound a lot different.  Oar how about two, too and to?  If I were you I wood knot worry about being perfect sew long as you get your point across.  OK Guys, how many miss steaks? 
 ;D

OK, Louis... 19... If you count "miss steaks" as one, rather than two.  How'd I do?  ;D
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: felix on July 25, 2007, 04:23 PM
Honestly, I'm not going to go.   

It's fun but really not my cup of tea drumming and scene wise. 

If you have not been to one before, definitely go.  Make your own conclusions.  It's pretty much "not me" I've decided.

Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: lrac3 on July 25, 2007, 11:58 PM
those of you who decide to attend, make sure to check out all that PASIC has to offer.  it's easy to get caught up in all the drumset clinics, but try to explore other aspects of our craft, such as a keyboard or tympani clinic.  one of the better clinics i went to a few years back was a gong performance by Michael Bettine.  it was an intimate setting, and he just blew me away!!! :o
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on July 28, 2007, 11:21 PM
Honestly, I'm not going to go.   

It's fun but really not my cup of tea drumming and scene wise. 

If you have not been to one before, definitely go.  Make your own conclusions.  It's pretty much "not me" I've decided.


Felix,
Last year you traveled to Texas to the show and this time it is in your back yard.
Your not making sence.  See you there?
                                      Mark
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: felix on July 29, 2007, 01:31 PM
I'm not into it.  That's it.  It's full of kids, teachers and chop heads... plus it's a corporate kiss ass fest.  Some of the gear is cool, but really- I'm set for gear;  You just get to that point at times.

It's alright, but to me it's a tired scene and alot of dough.  There is a good chance I'll be living in Austin by Nov. anyways.

Maybe next year if it's in Austin and I'm there.  Have fun, don't let me spoil it for you guys.  I'm just jaded.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on July 29, 2007, 02:30 PM
I'm not into it.  That's it.  It's full of kids, teachers and chop heads... plus it's a corporate kiss ass fest.  Some of the gear is cool, but really- I'm set for gear;  You just get to that point at times.

It's alright, but to me it's a tired scene and alot of dough.  There is a good chance I'll be living in Austin by Nov. anyways.

Maybe next year if it's in Austin and I'm there.  Have fun, don't let me spoil it for you guys.  I'm just jaded.
If you move to Austin Let me know?  I know a few players down there that I used to play music with. They could stand a good drummer right now.
                                   Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Dave Kropf on August 03, 2007, 06:33 PM
I'll be going as well as providing tons of PASIC coverage in the podcast.  I am sad that DC won't have a booth, though - I loved the thought of you guys on the exhibit hall floor.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on August 23, 2007, 07:05 AM
I am buying my pass today and I have already put in for the vacation time.  See you all there ;D.
                                     Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Louis Russell on August 23, 2007, 07:45 AM
You guys have fun and think of me while I am stuck here in Oklahoma. 
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on August 23, 2007, 11:53 AM
You guys have fun and think of me while I am stuck here in Oklahoma. 
Going to miss meeting you face to face Louis.  Maybe next time 8)?  I registered today. I didn't spend the money on the workshop or the Hall of Fame dinner.  If you all think that was a mistake, please let me know?
                                   Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: lrac3 on August 23, 2007, 03:02 PM
I didn't spend the money on the workshop or the Hall of Fame dinner.  If you all think that was a mistake, please let me know?
                                   Nutty

I've never attended the workshops or Hall of Fame dinner, so I don't know if it is a mistake; I can tell you that i've had so much fun over the years @ PASIC, that i don't feel i've been robbed by NOT attending those things. If you can, I DO recommend going to Preview Day on that Wednesday.  there is such an eclectic mix of music, i mean so really "out there" stuff.  personally, i really dig it. if you can make it, i think it'll definately add to your experience (and Wed. IS included in your package, so if you can make it, go for it).
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on August 23, 2007, 03:56 PM
I've never attended the workshops or Hall of Fame dinner, so I don't know if it is a mistake; I can tell you that i've had so much fun over the years @ PASIC, that i don't feel i've been robbed by NOT attending those things. If you can, I DO recommend going to Preview Day on that Wednesday.  there is such an eclectic mix of music, i mean so really "out there" stuff.  personally, i really dig it. if you can make it, i think it'll definately add to your experience (and Wed. IS included in your package, so if you can make it, go for it).
Thank you for the feed back lrac3.  I am off work from Wednesday though Wednesday, so it boils down to footing the bill for three nights in a hotel instead of two. I would love to check out this eclectic mix of music you are talking about. I used to listen to a show here on public radio called Space music.  They had the Jazz hour and the Space music hour.  I really enjoy that kind of stuff.  Anything different to stimulate the senses.
                           Nutty
                                     
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Larry Lawless on August 23, 2007, 04:23 PM
I registered today. I didn't spend the money on the workshop or the Hall of Fame dinner. 

I've attended the Hall of Fame dinner, and I feel it is overpriced. Most of the people who attend are the VIPs in PAS, which is kinda cool to be around them, but it's a pretty stuffy formal dinner type setting. I was there in 2004 when Ed Shaugnessey got his Hall of Fame presentation. I have to attend this year as Texas President and hobnob with the hoi poloi.

The Wednesday focus this year is just timpani, so if that is not your thing, I wouldn't bother. I'm not getting in to Columbus until Wed. night myself.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on August 23, 2007, 04:30 PM
I've attended the Hall of Fame dinner, and I feel it is overpriced. Most of the people who attend are the VIPs in PAS, which is kinda cool to be around them, but it's a pretty stuffy formal dinner type setting. I was there in 2004 when Ed Shaugnessey got his Hall of Fame presentation. I have to attend this year as Texas President and hobnob with the hoi poloi.

The Wednesday focus this year is just timpani, so if that is not your thing, I wouldn't bother. I'm not getting in to Columbus until Wed. night myself.
Thank you Larry.  I guess I will arrive Thursday Morning. You just saved me a night in a Hotel.
                   Nutty
                                     
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Hannah Ford on August 27, 2007, 10:01 PM
I will be arriving on Thursday morning as well!  Looking forward to seeing all my DC friends!

Hannah
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: lrac3 on August 28, 2007, 01:34 PM
I will be there Wed. morning.  I try to soak up as much of the experience as i can.  just registered yesterday. i am pumped!!!
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on August 28, 2007, 02:34 PM
I will be there Wed. morning.  I try to soak up as much of the experience as i can.  just registered yesterday. i am pumped!!!
Sounds like you love this Event lrac3,
I paid my money last week but I am still shopping Hotels.  I have found they range from $45
up to what ever you want to spend.  I have found some exceptable ones between $50 and $75 a night, less than 10 miles away. I can't see spending $100 a night to sleep by the convention center. I am getting kinda pumped too and have never been there.  Looking forward to it. It will be really cool to meet some of you DC'ers in person.
                              Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Bart Elliott on August 28, 2007, 02:39 PM
Sounds like you love this Event lrac3,
I paid my money last week but I am still shopping Hotels.  I have found they range from $45
up to what ever you want to spend.  I have found some exceptable ones between $50 and $75 a night, less than 10 miles away. I can't see spending $100 a night to sleep by the convention center. I am getting kinda pumped too and have never been there.  Looking forward to it. It will be really cool to meet some of you DC'ers in person.

I understand not wanting to spend a lot of money on a room ... however ... I will say that there is enough going on that you'll be glad if you stay somewhere close. If you do stay far away, you'll need to pay for parking AND plan on not returning to your room until very late at night!

After staying a mile or so away in the past, I'm glad I'll be close (next door) this time!
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on August 28, 2007, 03:03 PM
I understand not wanting to spend a lot of money on a room ... however ... I will say that there is enough going on that you'll be glad if you stay somewhere close. If you do stay far away, you'll need to pay for parking AND plan on not returning to your room until very late at night!

After staying a mile or so away in the past, I'm glad I'll be close (next door) this time!
Bart,
Is there anything for less than $100 close?  The Red Roof Inn was like $95. When shopping for a hotel room, I have to answer to a wife that is not going so she has no problem with me staying 10 miles away, LOL. I guess I should just do it and call it a day.
                                            Nutty
                                Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Bart Elliott on August 28, 2007, 03:08 PM
Bart,
Is there anything for less than $100 close?  The Red Roof Inn was like $95. When shopping for a hotel room, I have to answer to a wife that is not going so she has no problem with me staying 10 miles away, LOL. I guess I should just do it and call it a day.

I don't know about what is there and the rates; contact PAS about that or do some searching.

My suggestion is to befriend a member here at the Drummer Cafe and split the cost of a room. A number of us have done this in the past and it's worked out great ... allowing us to stay close and not pay for a single room.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on August 28, 2007, 04:07 PM
I would be willing to do split the cost of a hotel room and get something close.  For the price of the Day's Inn 10 miles away. Two people could afford to stay at nice hotel close.
                           Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on August 28, 2007, 04:41 PM
I don't know about what is there and the rates; contact PAS about that or do some searching.

My suggestion is to befriend a member here at the Drummer Cafe and split the cost of a room. A number of us have done this in the past and it's worked out great ... allowing us to stay close and not pay for a single room.
Bart,
 I just talked to the wife and she told me to take your advice.  I will make reservations tonight.  I will do it by myself if I have to but if anyone is going that is trying to save money,
send me a PM? See you all there ;D!!

                           Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on August 29, 2007, 08:56 AM
The Hyatt, Red Roof, Drury, are booked and the others have raised their rates ::).   Comfort Suites is 3 miles away. That is where I am staying.  The Hampton Inn was up to like $175 a night ::).
The close hotels are full or almost full. The Comfort Suite was $80.99 per night.  For the savings on hotel and parking at the convention center, a cab would be much cheaper.
                                Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: lrac3 on August 29, 2007, 05:07 PM
  For the savings on hotel and parking at the convention center, a cab would be much cheaper.
                                Nutty

I know when i stayed @ the Holiday Inn a few years back, they offered a free shuttle to the convo center, so you may want to check into that situation for your hotel.  that should save dough as well as the footwork. ;)
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Hannah Ford on September 01, 2007, 09:26 AM
I understand not wanting to spend a lot of money on a room ... however ... I will say that there is enough going on that you'll be glad if you stay somewhere close. If you do stay far away, you'll need to pay for parking AND plan on not returning to your room until very late at night!

After staying a mile or so away in the past, I'm glad I'll be close (next door) this time!

I agree!  This will be my 5th PASIC and I learned the first time that you miss alot by not staying close.  There's a lot of "action" away from the "action" that's so cool.  Part of the atmosphere that makes this event so exciting is the energy that's created as all these great drummers come together for conversation, jam sessions etc.  IT"S AWESOME!!!

My last 4 events I've made a point to stay at the convention center.  Parking is not a hassle, you can walk back and forth to the room easily and it's where ALL the action is!

Stay close...you'll be glad you did.

Hannah
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on September 01, 2007, 10:12 AM
I agree!  This will be my 5th PASIC and I learned the first time that you miss alot by not staying close.  There's a lot of "action" away from the "action" that's so cool.  Part of the atmosphere that makes this event so exciting is the energy that's created as all these great drummers come together for conversation, jam sessions etc.  IT"S AWESOME!!!

My last 4 events I've made a point to stay at the convention center.  Parking is not a hassle, you can walk back and forth to the room easily and it's where ALL the action is!

Stay close...you'll be glad you did.

Hannah
Well, I wish I made my reservations earlier because there isn't much left close. If you want to spend about $200 per night maybe, but I got with in 3 miles.  I could have gotten Thursday night but Friday was booked everywhere. See you all there.  I will probably be taking a cab most of it.
                          Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: NY Frank on September 01, 2007, 11:57 AM
Somebody needs to be the DC photographer and catch lots of shots of DCers in attendance, to be posted somewhere later where we can all check it out.

I would love to go, but it's not happening for me this year.  Maybe next year.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on September 01, 2007, 01:37 PM
I will take digital pictures.  I always do.  I have seen pictures and good ones from the last show.  I will see if I can expand that Photo shoot ;D.
                          Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on September 07, 2007, 10:33 PM
I believe I am going to miss PASIC this year! I should be on tour with my band IronHorse starting from October 25th...
You guys enjoy the convention, it is a very cool event!!!

Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Hannah Ford on September 10, 2007, 07:24 AM
You will be missed....Good Luck on the Tour...any Chicago dates???

Hannah
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on September 10, 2007, 10:34 AM
I will miss meeting with the DC members at Pasic. Felix the Sushi dinner sound good, butit looks like I will miss it....

Hannah, I don't know yet the itinerary, but I'll keep you posted! It will be nice to meet in person some other Drummer Cafe members across the country...

Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on September 10, 2007, 10:50 AM
I will miss meeting with the DC members at Pasic. Felix the Sushi dinner sound good, butit looks like I will miss it....

Hannah, I don't know yet the itinerary, but I'll keep you posted! It will be nice to meet in person some other Drummer Cafe members across the country...


Sorry you not going to make it Gaetano, I would have enjoyed meeting you.  Have a good tour.
                         Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on September 16, 2007, 07:51 PM
I was just wondering how long after you paid your money did it take you to received
something in the mail?
                         Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Bob Bartley on September 17, 2007, 10:29 AM
I haven't been on in awhile, we are in the throws of moving to a new house. And with that I will sadly be missing PASIC this year. My wife and I had a great time 2 years a go when we went and met the DC gang that was there. Dinner was a lot of fun and the clinics were all awesome. All of you going have a great time and I'm sure you will keep all of us who can't go informed on the event.  Gaetano, let us know when you have your itenary for the tour so we can get out and see you.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on September 17, 2007, 07:13 PM
I was just wondering how long after you paid your money did it take you to received
something in the mail?
                         Nutty
Sorry about this post.  I went back and read my confirmation and the badges will be sent out the week of October 1st.
                                     Sorry ::),
                                     Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: pemfoo on September 17, 2007, 07:38 PM
...week of October 1st.

I was just going to say that. :)

I was struggling with whether I should go or not. I have been working my butt off since May and haven't had any spare time. My practice time has suffered greatly. Being a realtive newbie, this means my suck-i-tude level is drmatically increasing. But, I decided last week, I am gonna go. I'm making it a little reward for myself. It always gets me jazzed up and wanting to practice more and harder. Maybe it will help me kick start back into the routine.

Hope to see you there.

--pat
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Larry Lawless on September 17, 2007, 09:54 PM
Glad you've decided to make it, Pat. I'll be looking for you there.

- Larry
Title: PASIC 2007
Post by: Bart Elliott on October 15, 2007, 09:41 AM
Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to make it to Columbus this year for PASIC 2007.

I do hope that those of you going have a great time (I know you will), and make a point to connect with fellow Drummer Cafe members who are also at the event. In the years past, it's always been a blast to meet others in person. Friday night is usually the best time to meet for dinner.

Use the Drummer Cafe IM system to stay in touch with each other while you're there ... if you don't have any other means. I do suggest that you contact each other before PASIC so you know who to be on the lookout for. I would suggest having Larry Lawless be the point man for the gathering ... if he's willing and not too busy with his Texas Chapter PAS commitments.

I'll try and post any information that comes available regarding the event and the Drummer Cafe gathering.

Be sure to take lots of photos and video ... wear your Drummer Cafe T-shirt ;D and spread the word about our drum/percussion community.
Title: Re: PASIC 2007
Post by: Hannah Ford on October 15, 2007, 09:48 AM
Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to make it to Columbus this year for PASIC 2007.

I do hope that those of you going have a great time (I know you will), and make a point to connect with fellow Drummer Cafe members who are also at the event. In the years past, it's always been a blast to meet others in person. Friday night is usually the best time to meet for dinner.

Use the Drummer Cafe IM system to stay in touch with each other while you're there ... if you don't have any other means. I do suggest that you contact each other before PASIC so you know who to be on the lookout for. I would suggest having Larry Lawless be the point man for the gathering ... if he's willing and not too busy with his Texas Chapter PAS commitments.

I'll try and post any information that comes available regarding the event and the Drummer Cafe gathering.

Be sure to take lots of photos and video ... wear your Drummer Cafe T-shirt ;D and spread the word about our drum/percussion community.


Hey Bart,

Very sorry to hear you won't be joining us at PASIC this year.  I hope all is well with you and your family.

Hannah
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: lrac3 on October 15, 2007, 10:56 AM
sorry to hear that Bart.  hopefully we can get together soon!
Title: Re: PASIC 2007
Post by: Mark Counts on October 15, 2007, 10:58 AM

Hey Bart,

Very sorry to hear you won't be joining us at PASIC this year.  I hope all is well with you and your family.

Hannah
Ditto Bart,
Sorry you won't be there.  I will take my digital camera and try to get as much of it as I can.  Yea, Larry sent me a breakfast meeting of Drummers that play for Churches  to attend on Saturday morning already.  I will be attending that.  I have never been to one of these events before so for me to organize would not be ideal.  I will probably be fairly lost at my first one?  If other folks like Hannah or Iraq3 or Larry knows what they are going to do would please let some of us know, it would help us lost folks have some idea of what is worth attending and what not? Also, if you all come up with a place to meet for dinner or something please let me know?  You all probably know the surrounding area better than I. I will send you all my Cell number via PM this week after I go back through this thread to see who is going to be there? I got my Pasic Package last week so I am all set to go.
Wish you could make it Bart?  I hope everything is going well with you and your family also.
Maybe next time?
                          Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: pemfoo on October 17, 2007, 08:25 PM
Thought I'd play tour guide for a couple minutes, incase anyone is interested. West of the convention is the arena district ( http://www.arena-district.com/]http://www.arena-district.com/ ), which has many restaurants and pubs. North is the area we call the Short North ( http://www.shortnorth.org/]http://www.shortnorth.org/ ), which has many art gallery's and more restaurants and pubs. Also, I think Saturday (3-Nov) will be a gallery hop. All the galleries will be open late and there will be lots of people around.

Immediately west, one block of the convention center is the North Market ( http://www.northmarket.com/]http://www.northmarket.com/ ). It has lots of places to eat. Not a bad place to grab lunch. (Back in the old days, I used to walk here from work and buy cheese sandwiches for 39 cents each.)

And, of course, if you are looking for bizarre art work I can let you know where the field of corn ( http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/OHDUBcorn.html]http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/OHDUBcorn.html ) is!

--pat
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Dave Heim on October 17, 2007, 10:19 PM
Thought I'd play tour guide for a couple minutes, incase anyone is interested. West of the convention is the arena district ( http://www.arena-district.com/]http://www.arena-district.com/ ), which has many restaurants and pubs. North is the area we call the Short North ( http://www.shortnorth.org/]http://www.shortnorth.org/ ), which has many art gallery's and more restaurants and pubs. Also, I think Saturday (3-Nov) will be a gallery hop. All the galleries will be open late and there will be lots of people around.

Immediately west, one block of the convention center is the North Market ( http://www.northmarket.com/]http://www.northmarket.com/ ). It has lots of places to eat. Not a bad place to grab lunch. (Back in the old days, I used to walk here from work and buy cheese sandwiches for 39 cents each.)

And, of course, if you are looking for bizarre art work I can let you know where the field of corn ( http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/OHDUBcorn.html]http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/OHDUBcorn.html ) is!

--pat


Thanks for that, pemfoo.  I get to the Easton area quite often, but I've not spent too much time downtown.  Handy info for future visits!
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Louis Russell on October 18, 2007, 08:02 AM
Sorry I am not able to make the trip.  I was reading the October PAS newsletter and this is the first year that they have sold out all the booths.  Have fun guys and let us know about all the good stuff.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on October 18, 2007, 08:25 AM
Sorry I am not able to make the trip.  I was reading the October PAS newsletter and this is the first year that they have sold out all the booths.  Have fun guys and let us know about all the good stuff.
Yea, I wish you could make it too Louis, I am starting to get very excited about my first one.
I printed out the schedule and there is a pretty good list of the Drumset clinic drummers.
I haven't heard of all of them but I am looking forward to watching up close.  I have time to check out who everyone is. Here is the list.
DRUMSET
Ronald Bruner, Jr.
Ndugu Chancler
Grant Collins
Brann Dailor
Dave DiCenso
Peter Erskine and Alex Acuna
Omar Hakim
JJ Johnson
Billy Martin
Dom Moio
Lewis Nash
Walfredo Reyes, Jr.
Joel Spencer
Dave Weckl

Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on October 18, 2007, 10:18 AM
Ok Drummer cafe folks!

My plans have changed... I'll be at PASIC on Thursday, Friday and part of Saturday...
So I will see you there...

Sorry to hear that you can't make it Bart! Maybe next year...

Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Hannah Ford on October 19, 2007, 09:13 PM
Ok Drummer cafe folks!

My plans have changed... I'll be at PASIC on Thursday, Friday and part of Saturday...
So I will see you there...

Sorry to hear that you can't make it Bart! Maybe next year...



That's AWESOME Gaetano!!!!

Look forward to seeing you there...

Hannah
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on October 19, 2007, 10:45 PM
I'll be at PASIC on Thursday, Friday and part of Saturday...
So I will see you there...



Someone needs to put together a place to meet on maybe Friday night to hang out with the DC folks for dinner or something? I believe that was Bart's suggestion? I would like to meet some of you folks. Glad you get to make it Geatano.
                                     Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: 1Xanadu1 on October 19, 2007, 11:58 PM
Just wanted to let everyone know that my drum instructor, Dr. Doug Nottingham will be at PASIC with his own booth. I'm not sure what its for or ware it is but I will find out soon. Make sure you to check him out, he's a brilliant man.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: 1Xanadu1 on October 22, 2007, 04:50 PM
Heres and update. I talked to him today and he told me he was going to be one of the soloists for the solo timpani thing going on Wednesday. Check him out if you have the time.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: lrac3 on October 27, 2007, 03:17 PM
well, looks like i won't be in attendance this year. everyone have a great time and maybe i'll see ya next year in Austin!
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on October 28, 2007, 06:20 AM
well, looks like i won't be in attendance this year. everyone have a great time and maybe i'll see ya next year in Austin!
You were like the guy that never missed one of these?  I was looking forward to meeting you and Felix. I was down at my local Music Store the other day doing some Paiste business and all the guys in the drum shop have been and they told me some stories that makes me want to go even more.  I now wish I would have gotten closer with my Hotel Room. I am really starting to get excited about it.  Sorry you are not going to make it Irac3.
I have three Cafe T-shirts but my favorite one is worn out.  I guess I need to see if I can get one here by Wednesday?
                                    Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Hank Gagnon on November 01, 2007, 08:46 PM
i went last year  and it was pretty neat.  they have more drums, cymbals and related equipment than you can shake a stick at.  theyhave entry level stuff to  top of the line and beyond.  it is also very loud.  can't figure why!  one thing that i wished i did was go to some of the clinics.  if you go  you will get to see some of the best of the best drums and equipment around.  if you get to take in some clinics , that's just icing on the cake.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on November 02, 2007, 07:18 AM
Hello everyone,
yesterday was the first day of PASIC, and it was very busy day.... I had the pleasure to meet with some drummer cafe members at the event:
L Lawless
Drumnut1
Hannah Ford
pemfoo

I didn't see Felix thought... Felix where are you?
Anyhow, it is very difficult to meet each other, because there is not a drummercafe booth this year...  :( But it's ok, we already made some arrangiament to meet right outside of the hotel Ballroom around 4:00 to see who would come to dinner tonight...Yes, our traditional Drummer Cafe Friday dinner at PASIC, first class  :D

Bart I may call you tonight during dinner time, I hope it's OK... 

That's it for now... I have to get ready to go, because I don't want to miss the Dave Weckl clinic at 11:00 am  ;D

Gaetano
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: felix on November 02, 2007, 09:44 AM
Hey I thought you weren't going?

Maybe next year I'll go.

Play some sonors for me okay?  And let me know if you like the new Paiste "20" series.

CU SOON

"First Class"   ;D

Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Bart Elliott on November 02, 2007, 06:16 PM
I just got off the phone with Gaetano Nicolosi, pemfoo (aka Patrick) and drumnut1 (aka Mark) who are waiting to be seated at  http://www.bucadibeppo.com/locations/location.aspx?location=3501]Buca di Beppo  in Columbus, OH for the annual Drummer Cafe dinner at PASIC.

It was nice of the guys to give me a call since I can't be there this year.

drumnut1 said he is trying to take lots of pictures to share with everyone in the next few days.

Other Drummer Cafe members have been sited, including Larry Lawless, Hannah Ford and Dave Kropf.

Thanks for the phone call guys; that was very thoughtful of you.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: felix on November 03, 2007, 08:04 AM
Looking forward to the report.

Next year I will go as I indeed kinda missed it this year.

Hope you guys are having/had fun.
f.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on November 03, 2007, 09:17 AM
Hey Felix,
I posted about my touring schedule that was changed, and I said also that I'll be at PASIC...

Here is what I wrote:

"Ok Drummer cafe folks!
My plans have changed... I'll be at PASIC on Thursday, Friday and part of Saturday...
So I will see you there..."


Sorry you coudn't make it...

Anyway it was nice talking to Bart and Felix last night, myself, drumnut1, and pemfoo hhad a nice dinner last night and we were talking about clinics, etc... I can't go into to many details right now, because I need to go back to the convention....
But inthe next couple of days I'll tell you more about the clinics....

Ciao
Gaetano
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on November 03, 2007, 07:47 PM
Hi Everyone,
I guess we all took some pictures.  Hannah's dad took some, I took some with Gaetano's camera.  He took a few with mine and I tried to take pictures of all the clinic's that I attended. Got a few of the Venders area and some eye candy of a few things. I kept a complete Diary of each day and the events and clinic's and what my opinion of each one was and maybe some of the things I learned.  I guess the whole trip cost me about $600 and we ate well and I bought a few idems.  IMHO, what I learned from this experience was worth every penny.  I just walked in the door and need to spend some time with my kids but I will try to get it all out in the next day or so and I am sure the rest of the gang will have plenty to add, with some pictures.
                              Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Dave Kropf on November 03, 2007, 10:45 PM
Hello all.  PASIC was wonderful, although I did miss seeing Bart and Felix.  :)  It was cool to meet Drumnut and I also caught Gaetano Pemfoo (we go wayyyy back  ;))

Travel safely home everyone!
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on November 03, 2007, 11:17 PM
Hello all.  PASIC was wonderful, although I did miss seeing Bart and Felix.  :)  It was cool to meet Drumnut and I also caught Gaetano Pemfoo (we go wayyyy back  ;))

Travel safely home everyone!
Hey Dave,
It was great meeting you too.  Everyone was very good people. Yea, we talked to Bart and Felix,  and ate Fried Squid, Shrimp and Scallops with spicy pasta and a wonderful Salmon dish with Vegies that were out of this world. I wish more folks could have been there but we did have some fun.  My breakfast with Larry this morning was great and a good way to start the day. I finally got to talk to Hannah's Dad and he is a great guy.  I know he is really proud of her.  He say's she runs the show.  He also said there is a chance she may play at one of these PASIC's in the near future.  Next year, it is in Texas.  I problably can't travel that far. I will probably attend this every few years. It was worth the trip.
Dave, Did you get to interview Omar, for your POD Cast?  Folks, he was great!!! I'll try to get it out tomorrow!! There were a few great clinic's and I have to talk about them.  I have to upload the pictures and Enhance a few because of the light.  Then I have to send it to a host and then post it.  I will try to do it tomorrow night.
                                 Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Hannah Ford on November 04, 2007, 01:08 AM
Hey Everyone!

I just got back to the room with my Dad and once again had an AWESOME experience at PASIC!

I was great to once again see Nutty and Gaetano as well as meet Larry Lawless. What a great group of guys!

Since i'm driving back tomorrow morning and go right to work with a rehearsal tomorrow night it will probably be some time next week before I get to share any thoughts about this years convention.

Mark thank you for being so kind and for your kind remarks!

Hannah
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on November 04, 2007, 06:41 PM
PASIC 2007 Columbus Ohio

Thursday the first of November I drove into Columbus about Noon.  The first Clinic I wanted to attend was Ronald Bruner Jr. I guess being my first Pasic I was  a bit nervous.
I was early and got to sit front row right in the middle.  There sat a very nice kit of Tama babinga drums, and Sabian cymbals.  The first clinic was great and this guy was a very good  Jazz/progressive style drummer and played with lots of feel.  Broke 2 sticks and threw 2. Very good way to start the day. Even pro drummers brake sticks.
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9778/1000729rc5.jpg.
Here is a Picture of him checking his gear before it started.
(http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1105/1000731iz2.jpg).

After that I went to tour the Exhibit Hall to check out the booths.  I am not going to talk about each day touring the booths but it was great checking out all the new stuff. If you wanted to tap on cymbals, this was the place.  Stagg cymbals,  Paiste, Zildjian, Micheal Paiste cymbals, Meinl, Bosphorus Cymbals and Sabian and more.  I tapped on most of them and kept going back to the Paistes but that is just my taste.  I got to meet Andrew Shreve with Paiste America.  I communicated many times with him Via E-mail or Phone.
It was nice to meet him in person. Gaetano really showed me around this trip introducing me to people.  It was great hanging out with someone that knew a lot of folks. Now for some Eye Candy? $30,000 dollar price tag!! Neil Peart Special
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4453/1000734pb9.jpg)
 
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1069/1000735ay2.jpg.

I guess this about where I bought my first set of brushes in years but here is more eye candy.
Tama Booth,
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/6758/1000736bv9.jpg).
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/849/1000737iw3.jpg
Guess Who??? Gaetano,  Pat and Me, Who is the fourth???
(http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/7708/1000760mm5.jpg)
Pat Petrillo.
DW
(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4885/1000768sj5.jpg)

Ludwig
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4563/1000765qy5.jpg

Larry Lawless with Lawless Percussion and great Café Member sporting his T-shirt.
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/764/1000779jb5.jpg)

Gaetano,
(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/141/1000769cp8.jpg)
This was a friend of Gaetano and he made snares and check out the practice pad he sells.
This was me and Omar Hakim taken by Gaetano.  I also took one of Omar and Gaetano with Gaetanos camera. Omars one hour was one of the best I saw.
(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2929/1000772hz2.jpg)

 He was absolutely amazing.  Very good speaker too.  On and off stage, very personable.  He, Ndugu Chancler, Louis Nash, and Dave DiCenso  were probably the best clinics.
I am going to stop right here and tell the rest when I get some more time. I still have more to tell and more pics.  I am trying not to eat up to much with all the picture.  Some you will have to click on the links I provided but I had around 30 pics.  Many of them were the Clinicians Kits. Here was Weckl,
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3020/1000745ux7.jpg)
This may or may not surprise folks.  His clinic was good but he told everyone that it wasnt going to be a chop fest and that is exactly what it was, IMHO.  He show cased his stuff and he is killer and very smooth. Gaetano tried to shake his hand in the hall afterwards and he avoided any conversation and looked at me like, dont bother.
All I can say is the personality that we saw from him was not friendly.
This should give you a little taste of what it was like? There is more to come.
                                           Nutty
                                         
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Larry Lawless on November 04, 2007, 08:47 PM
Thanks for the pictures, Mark. It was a great time, and I really enjoyed our talks.

Glad I ran into you at lunch, Gaetano, so we got a little bit of a visit in. Did you ever get to talk to Steve Houghton? I never saw him again the rest of the convention.

Hannah, you are a remarkable young lady with a terrific father. Best wishes in all you do.

And Patrick, I'm sorry I missed you. Dave, I saw you a couple of times across the hall, but never a chance to say hello.

My experience was a bit hectic with meetings and business talks, only got to two clinics, but both were fantastic. Jon Metzger, who has the book, "The Art and Language of Jazz Vibes" demonstrated the concepts from his book and took it further. It was the first time I had been able to hear him play, even though I have worked out of his book for a few years. Got a chance to chat one on one with him at the Pro-Mark booth, and will try to help him set up a tour in Texas.

The other clinic was Andy Narell, well known jazz steel drum artist. His presentation skills were a little lacking, but his playing is a joy and he did get his points across well enough to follow what he was doing. The remarkable thing to me was how much it coincided with what Jon had said the day before.

Saw lots of old friends, met some new ones, played with the latest toys, heard some good music ... just flew in from Chicago and boy are my arms tired (Ba Boom ching)
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: felix on November 05, 2007, 04:35 AM
The Weck has always been kinda like that.  Don't worry about it.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on November 05, 2007, 05:41 AM
The Weck has always been kinda like that.  Don't worry about it.
Hey Felix,
The guys that I sat by at the Ronald Bruner Jr. clinic were from Columbus and had been before and I told them that I was looking forward to seeing Weckl and they all told me that he was a great drummer but they didn't care for his personality.  Our experience made this all that more believable.  Some of the key things that I learned from most of the Pro Drummers clinics that I saw.  To be a successful drummer and be someone that gets the calls to work.  Dependable, Easy to Work with, Playing for the music as more of a supporting roll, gets the material down quickly and be able to read music was also one that Ndugu mentioned.  As Ndugu Chancler said, The drummer is located in the back behind the leader.  The saying I got your back, the drummer really does have their back.  It is not about the bombs bursting in air. It is giving the music what it needs. As Dave Dicenso said, it is like having a garden, and to make the perfect salid, you pick just what you need from your garden. You don't give it everything you have. I think I said that right?  People also want to work with people that are fun to work with.
If Weckl treats everyone one this way then they are only hiring him for his skill.
Each clinic was great but what I mentioned here was echoed over and over again.
The main thing that I learned from these guy about myself is that I have been a lead vocalist since 1982.  The Ego of a lead vocalist is not the mind set that makes a successful drummer :-X ::).  Doing both rolls for so long, the Lead Vocalist Ego may cause me problems. This didn't really dawn on me until I was driving home and had some time to digest all that was said.
I auditioned for a band last week and I am now playing drums for them.  They have a Lead singer.  I have got to put the Ego thing on the shelf and just be a good drummer for them for this project to be successful. I have been able to do it in the  church setting, so we shall see? If this one point/lesson was all I got out of Pasic, it was worth all the time and the money.
                               Nutty
                                     
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on November 05, 2007, 06:39 AM
Here we go!

This year of PASIC for me has been very busy and intense.... Bart, Felix, Patrick, Mark, and other that have been at PASIC before know what I mean... Walking around for three days, talking a lot (and loud when you are at the exhibit hall), etc... It really get you tired already the first day, and you can imagine after three days of that... It definitely was a lot of fun thought, going to clinics, trying new gear, etc...

Me, Mark, and Patrick have been together or found each other at most of the clinics, and also sometime I have seeing Hannah. So, pretty much I have seeing the same clinics that Mark has describe.
My favorite clinics were: Omar Hakim, Dave Weckl, Dom Moio, Walfredo Reyes Jr. There were other clinics that I found not interest to be there, after 10-15 minutes made me almost sleep (I don't like to mention any names)... Also I did not attend to all the clinics, it is impossible!
Saturday I didn't go to any clinics, because it was the last day to take care some business, and also I had a show about 1 and 1/2 hour from Columbus, so I even missed the Peter Erskine clinic  :(
Larry it was nice have lunch with you, I know you were pretty busy and tired as well..I keep looking for Steve Houghton, but never saw him....
   
Here is the fun part of my experience at PASIC this year...
I came back home from my Saturday gig at 4:30 am (Sunday) , and I get up at 7:00 am to get ready to go at the convention again for the PDT Seminar (Private Drum Teacher Seminar) hosted by Vic Firth and Dom Famularo... Can you imagine how I did feel after three days of PASIC, driving 1 and 1/2 to do a Show, come back 4:30 am and get up again at 7:00 for a seminar that started at 10:00 am and finished at 4:00 pm? Let's say, I did survive!!!!
It was an amazing experience attending to the PDT seminar; I'll recommend to every private teacher to go next year if you can...
SURPRISE!!!!!! At about 11:00 am Dave Weckl walks in and he sits right behind me, I just said good morning and he answered back! That was a good think... Of course, Mr. Vic firth after a while called Dave Weckl to come up and talk a little, he did a nice speech and stayed in the room with as for about 1 hour... One at the time we all took a pic with Dave and when it was my turn (I was the last one) I finally had the chance to talk to him for a little bit... He even found my book Play Along with IronHorse interesting and I gave him a copy, it was an honor....
I know that Mark and me had not so a great experience meeting Dave Weckl last Friday, but this was a little different situation, and he was a little more social and little more friendly, I was surprised myself....
Anyhow, going back to the PDT seminar we all had a lot of good useful information about business, Q&A, etc...
I came back home at about 5:00 pm and went to bed 8:00, you may wonder why?

I'll post some pics as soon they are ready....
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on November 05, 2007, 09:25 AM
PASIC 2007 continue,
Ok, I had some time to add a few more.  Unfortunately Felix, this was the only Sonor Kit I saw the whole trip. I never saw a Sonor booth.  This was Lewis Nashs kit.  He was a great drummer of Jazz and a good educator.  I loved listening to his speech about working and supporting who he is working with.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4895/1000751ru5.jpg.
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5353/1000752tt4.jpg)

I got to watch a JJ Johnson clinic and it was the first clinic he had ever done.  He just did a long tour with John Mayer.  He played a gorgeous kit of Ludwigs I didnt get a very good picture of him, I was back a little and it was very dark. He played for about 6 min. and answered questions for about 45.  Would have liked to see him play more.
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8554/1000747of6.jpg).

Gaetano, Pat and I got to watch Grant Collins at a clinic on Thursday. This was the largest kit at the show.  His drum kit consisted of almost eighty pieces.  26 drums, 34 cymbals, and 18 foot pedals.  He was a cross between Bozzio and Lang.
He showed great limb independence.  I have to say that I left the clinic thinking he was very technical but I have to ask myself, what would he sound like on Brick House?
I really thought it lacked feeling.  What a drum kit!!
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4994/1000738em1.jpg)
I have Just a few more to talk about but I will leave you with this picture of some GREAT company and food.  From here is where we called Bart to give him an update and Felix to try to talk him into driving down.
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5382/1000761du7.jpg).
It was a blast. I hope to see more of you folks the next time I can go to PASIC?
 I will have enough material to do one more post about like this one.  I have to go work on a drum kit at church right now.  Enjoy!!   Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on November 05, 2007, 05:15 PM
PASIC 2007 Part 3

OK, a Few more pics that I havent shown yet and a few more clinics.
I went to a clinic of a drummer named Brian Dailor.  He also played Tamas,
He had never done a clinic.  He played for 45 min. with his guitar player and this one
I needed ear plugs.  He talked a little.  He had only taken one lesson in his whole life.
I can say he was very fast but after each song, he shook his hands to limber his wrist.
I am not sure if it was discomfort or habit?  His drumming was entertaining and very busy, but for the type music he plays, it was appropriate. I tried to find him after the clinic to ask him if his wrist bothered him but never saw him again.   He may have some issues with technique?
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/8550/1000773nt1.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8717/1000778hi8.jpg

The last clinic I attended was Ndugu Chancler.  I guess I learned more from this guy.
He has played with everyone, Santana, Quincy Jones, Micheal Jacksons Thriller album,
Weather Report, Herbie Hancock, John Lee Hooker, Kenny Rodgers, Frank Sinatra and many more.
(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8317/1000782yi1.jpg)
(http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2950/1000783ai1.jpg)
By the way, check out the angle on his cymbals.  He barely had to move his arms from his side.  I wouldn't tell this guy that he hung his cymbals wrong.  It worked very well for him and I heard no sonic difference at all.  They sounded great.

I didnt write down his stuff, I guess I was knowing that I was to hit the road right after he was finished. He brought his pedals out in front because someone asked him to show his foot work.  He has the fastest feet I have ever seen.  He said that the trick was leather soles.  His foot on the hi hat was unbelievable.  Very fast and he said it doesnt work without slick soles. I understand now after watching him play.  I will have to work on what I saw.
This PASIC was a lot of fun for me.  I am sure that Gaetano will show you the picture I took of him and Dom Famularo.  Dom was everywhere and having lots of fun. He was a very nice guy and even invited me to come on the teachers thing on Sunday.  I wish I could have made it but it was time to leave.  I got to meet Zoro and bought his DVD and he signed it.  I hooked him up with Max Maxwell on the phone, at my local music store to do a clinic the first of the year and now I am trying to get Gaetano in there too.

I will leave you with a few more pics.
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5716/1000767ep2.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8041/1000764sx1.jpg
This is Andrew at the Paiste display.
(http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1251/1000766xj2.jpg)

Just a few comments.  I met Vic Firth and got a pair of 5ANs signed by him. 
Gaetano talked me into trying a heavier stick.  I have been playing Vic Firth 7ANs
for about 12 years.  I bought a pair of 5ANs to try out.  I will use the 8 or so pairs of 7ANs until they are gone and after practicing today with the 5ANs I am hooked.
I also got to play with some brushes today.  It felt really good.  I have much to work on.
I have a few more pics but you all got the best ones I had.  That is it for me.  I hope the other folks that made it, have more to add?
                  Cheers,
                         Nutty

Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: pemfoo on November 05, 2007, 08:10 PM
Hey everyone. Just got back online since leaving PASIC on Saturday. I have spent two days putting out a fire for work that got a little out of hand.  :-\

Nutty and Gaetano it was great seeing you guys and hanging out together! Larry, sorry I missed you, I figured you were in meetings all day. I'll catch you next time along with Bart and Felix.

My favorite clinics, in no particular order, were: Dave Dicenso, Omar Hakim, Ndugu Chancler, Dave Weckl and Brann Dailor. My son joined me on Saturday and really like the Brann Dailor clinic. Since he (my son) plays guitar he liked that Brann brought Bill, his guitar player, and how accessible they were to talk to.

I was really looking forward to JJ Johnson and wished he would of played more. Just first clinic syndrome. I'm sure his next one will be better. I still have much more to learn and I really enjoy going to PASIC. Of course, it is pretty cheap for me since I live in Columbus.

Take it easy,
pat


Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Brett Sheaffer on November 07, 2007, 11:26 AM
<Sigh>  I knew I'd regret not going this year.  Maybe the next time it comes around these parts.

It sounds like all you guys discovered the Drummer Cafe secret I learned in '05: Gaetano is a great "tour guide" so to speak, and there's no better person to befriend during the convention.

Glad you all had a good convention experience.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on November 07, 2007, 12:07 PM
<Sigh>  I knew I'd regret not going this year.  Maybe the next time it comes around these parts.

It sounds like all you guys discovered the Drummer Cafe secret I learned in '05: Gaetano is a great "tour guide" so to speak, and there's no better person to befriend during the convention.

Glad you all had a good convention experience.
You are right, Gaetano was great fun.  I heard that it was the last year in Columbus though.
Maybe Indianapolis in a few years.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on November 08, 2007, 10:17 AM
Brett and Nutty, thanks for the kind of words... It was a pleasure meeting you and do the PASIC tour.. You know I do that just with Drummer cafe members, first class all the way...  ;D
Brett, I thought you would go! Maybe I'll cach you next year...
Nutty, you got a lot of great pics, I'll try to post some this weekend....

P.S. Bart, many peaple at PASIC remembered the drummer cafe...At Vic Firth seminar we were talking about it...



Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Bart Elliott on November 08, 2007, 10:24 AM
P.S. Bart, many peaple at PASIC remembered the drummer cafe...At Vic Firth seminar we were talking about it...

That's great news!

Who is "we"?
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on November 08, 2007, 11:02 AM
That's great news!

Who is "we"?
The Cafe T-shirt seemed to get people to look closer also.  I know they were not just looking at my name tag.  Vic Firth himself was at the booth and I got him to sign a pair of brand new 5AN's for me. At the Hotel during breakfast, there was a drum teacher and his students and he asked me about my shirt and I explained it to him and he said he would get on line and check it out.  At a drummer convention, when people see the shirt with the word drummer across the front of it, they look and some ask questions.
Gaetano was hanging out at the booth with me and he seems to know a ton of people at this event.  No tellin who all he talked to?
                                 Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Brett Sheaffer on November 08, 2007, 11:08 AM
Brett and Nutty, thanks for the kind of words... It was a pleasure meeting you and do the PASIC tour.. You know I do that just with Drummer cafe members, first class all the way...  ;D
Brett, I thought you would go! Maybe I'll cach you next year...

I should have gone, Gaetano, but there's been some unexpected family issues in recent months, and it's complicated things.  By next year I hope that life will have moved on enough to get some good benefit from the convention.  But this year it just seemed like the timing wasn't right.

But I do believe that it does this caveman drummer (me) some good when I'm able to rub shoulders with the pros (present company included).  Hopefully next year.
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on November 08, 2007, 11:22 AM
That's great news!

Who is "we"?

Mark Wessels, Neil, Dom Famularo me and others from the education team... They difinitely know about the drummer cafe....
It's true that the T-shirt that Nutty was wearing got a lot of attention.... Me and Nutty were meeting and talking with a lot of peaple: Pat Petrillo, Skip Hadden, Dom Famularo, Dom Moio, Omar Hakim, just to name a few...But the list goes on and on....
Title: Vic Firth team
Post by: Bart Elliott on November 08, 2007, 11:29 AM
I know Mark Wessels ... he lived down the street from me when I lived in Dallas ... but we've never met! Dom is success a great guy. If there's anyone I would wish continued success, it would be Dom. Neal, I've been in touch with him, hoping to build my relationship with Vic Firth.

Thanks for spreading the word about our community here!

By the way ... was Marco around or did you see him at PASIC this year?
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on November 08, 2007, 06:50 PM
Hi again,
This picture was sent to me last night.  Hannah's dad took a picture of us at PASIC.
We all thought it was a great picture so I will upload it to the VIP Gallery. This is probably my last picture to post.
(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/6267/hannahfordmarkcountskh0.jpg).
                     Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Hannah Ford on November 08, 2007, 07:38 PM
Hi again,
This picture was sent to me last night.  Hannah's dad took a picture of us at PASIC.
We all thought it was a great picture so I will upload it to the VIP Gallery. This is probably my last picture to post.
(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/6267/hannahfordmarkcountskh0.jpg).
                     Nutty

Just LOOK at how HAPPY you are!!!  I told my Dad that I don't think you stopped smiling for the entire 3 days!!! LOL

Thats awesome.  It was good seeing you again. I'm glad you really enjoyed the convention.  I wish I would have gotten to have dinner on Friday with all my DC friends but we had some biz to take care of regarding PASIC 2008 and NAMM.

I'm sure our paths will cross again soon.

Take care,

Hannah


Title: Re: Vic Firth team
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on November 09, 2007, 12:58 AM


Thanks for spreading the word about our community here!

By the way ... was Marco around or did you see him at PASIC this year?


You are welcome Bart...

Marco was there, but he kept disappear... I guess he was to a lot of clinics, etc... And he wasn't at the PDT seminar...

Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on November 09, 2007, 10:48 AM
Just LOOK at how HAPPY you are!!!  I told my Dad that I don't think you stopped smiling for the entire 3 days!!! LOL

Thats awesome.  It was good seeing you again. I'm glad you really enjoyed the convention.  I wish I would have gotten to have dinner on Friday with all my DC friends but we had some biz to take care of regarding PASIC 2008 and NAMM.

I'm sure our paths will cross again soon.

Take care,

Hannah



Thank you Hannah,
I had a great time and yea, I almost never quit smiling ;D.  I believe that smiles are contageous.
When I play music for my church, the worship leader tells me, "as long as I look over and see you smiling I know that everything is going to be OK". I think that in a band atmosphere it is the same.  Smiling makes the audience feel that the band is having fun. This is very important IMOH.  If there is friction with a band, the crowd feels it.  So, to every one that reads this, Keep smiling ;). Sorry to derail a bit, back to PASIC and our regularly scheduled program.
              Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Pat Petrillo on November 10, 2007, 03:00 PM
Nutty & G!

Great to see you guys, and it was fun to hang...remember to the "shaker technique"  ;)

All the Best!

Pat
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Hannah Ford on November 10, 2007, 06:02 PM
Nutty & G!

Great to see you guys, and it was fun to hang...remember to the "shaker technique"  ;)

All the Best!

Pat

Hey there Mr. Pat,

It was great to meet you at PASIC this year.  I really appreciate you taking the time to talk with me about The Collective as well.

I look forward to the opportunity to see you perform some time soon.  I'm sure our paths will cross again.

Take care,

Hannah
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on November 10, 2007, 08:47 PM
Nutty & G!

Great to see you guys, and it was fun to hang...remember to the "shaker technique"  ;)

All the Best!

Pat

Hey Pat,
it was great to see you again at PASIC, and it's great to see you here at the drummer cafe...
Yes, we did lern the shaker technique at this time at PASIC, for some reason it feels natural to me!  ;D  Thanks to Dom Moio!!!

See you soon!!!
Gaetano
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on November 11, 2007, 05:25 AM
Nutty & G!

Great to see you guys, and it was fun to hang...remember to the "shaker technique"  ;)

All the Best!

Pat
Hey Pat,
It was great to meet you.  Sorry I missed your signing at Hudson Music, I was attending another clinic. I was able to hit 9 different clinics.  For me, it was very educational and I picked up a few things for my arsenal. Got to meet some really cool people. I think that I am hooked on this convention.  I will try to do it again in a few years.
          Again, It was a pleasure,
                               Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on November 12, 2007, 08:34 PM
Wow, I was doing some research about the drum Clinics I got to attend and I found the first one.  This was really good.  Ronald Bruner Jr. was the first one I got to see on Thursday at 1pm. at PASIC 2007.
http://drummerworld.com/Videos/ronaldbrunerpasic071.html
http://drummerworld.com/Videos/ronaldbrunerpasic072.html
                      Nutty

Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: pemfoo on November 14, 2007, 09:11 PM
They are also posting videos up on  http://www.vicfirth.com/features/PASIC2007.html]http://www.vicfirth.com/features/PASIC2007.html

Check them out.

pat

Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Pat Petrillo on November 21, 2007, 08:27 PM
Hey there Mr. Pat,

It was great to meet you at PASIC this year.  I really appreciate you taking the time to talk with me about The Collective as well.

I look forward to the opportunity to see you perform some time soon.  I'm sure our paths will cross again.

Take care,

Hannah

Hey, Hannah...Mos Def, we will, and keep doin' your thing.  Diane Downs was a friend in college, and love what she has done with all the Lep's from Lu a vul  ;)

Innaminit

Pat
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on November 22, 2007, 10:10 AM
I'll post some pics as soon they are ready....

Hey Gaetano,
I know you got some good pic's.  Can't wait to see them?  Hey, I talked to my local music shop and they seem interested in you.  They told me to send your press kit to MAX. I haven't made it to Louisville yet. They told me to mail it so I will send it in the next few days.  Maybe you will get to do a clinic down here? 
                                     Nutty
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on November 26, 2007, 11:05 PM
Hey guys, sorry it took so long. But I have been really busy in the last couple of weeks... Thanks for your patience! Anyhow, I had not clue on how to upload the pics, and thanks to the help of Joe I did it!  ;D Thanks again Joe!

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd8/gaetano_nicolosi/meandDom.jpg)
Here is me and Dom Famularo


(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd8/gaetano_nicolosi/meandOmar.jpg)
Me and Omar Hakim


(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd8/gaetano_nicolosi/meandWeckl.jpg)
Me and Dave Weckl
Title: Re: This year at Pasic in Columbus Ohio????
Post by: Mark Counts on November 29, 2007, 10:57 PM
Brett and Nutty, thanks for the kind of words... It was a pleasure meeting you and do the PASIC tour.. You know I do that just with Drummer cafe members, first class all the way...  ;D
Brett, I thought you would go! Maybe I'll cach you next year...
Nutty, you got a lot of great pics, I'll try to post some this weekend....

P.S. Bart, many peaple at PASIC remembered the drummer cafe...At Vic Firth seminar we were talking about it...




You know Gaetano,
You are right about the First Class all the way!! I felt right at home knowing that I was not alone up there.  The Cafe people made it all worth wild.  Dave, Pat P. and Pat M., Hannah  and her dad, Larry , and you. Then we called Bart and Felix. That was very cool.  Man the squid was great. The show was great!! I have to do it again. Thanks to you and the other Cafe Members, I met lots of people. See you all in a few years.  My wife said I can do it anytime it's close. Notice how I put her first.  Works good for me. She has a lot to do with me doing what I love. Hard to find a good woman that trusts you and puts up with your dreams? This drummer/drums convention was great and I would recommend it to any one that takes their craft seriously. It will boost your knowlege level.  It was very much worth it.
                           Nutty