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Title: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on March 07, 2009, 12:18 PM
Hi DC friends!
Believe it or not I think it's about time for our annual community solo! What do you think Bart? Are we doing it this year?

Gaetano
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on March 07, 2009, 12:40 PM
Hi DC friends!
Believe it or not I think it's about time for our annual community solo!
Wow, a year goes by fast!!. I am into it. Thanks for asking Bart, Gaetano. Ready to try
out some new equipment :o.
                       Nutty
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: NY Frank on March 07, 2009, 01:16 PM
Whenever it is time, I'm hoping by then to have something real this time to record it with.
I'm looking to acquire a Zoom H2 at some point so that I can record myself frequently - and
when I stop puking into a pail over the results :)  - to be able to post some of that stuff
for when I'm music networking.   These days, when people ask me - do you have any clips
of you playing - I don't have a very good answer.  :)      um, er, well...
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on March 07, 2009, 01:54 PM
In the past we haven't started the community solo until April, but I've been thinking of announcing it in a few weeks with the beginning of spring.

So to answer the question ... YES ... I'm planning on us having the community solo again, and every year, as long as the Drummer Cafe is around.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: eardrum on March 07, 2009, 03:56 PM
Sounds great. I was too busy with work last year but would like to get in on the fun this year. 

Help: I can't find a link to last years comsolo.  I checked the TV section, no luck.  I could be blind and it's staring right at me. Suggestions?
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on March 07, 2009, 04:51 PM
Bart,

I know coming up with the loops can be something of a challenge. You think Billy might donate some material, maybe loop eight bars of one of his tracks? Just an idea. I know the real monster challenge for you is getting all the submissions lined up ....
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on March 07, 2009, 05:06 PM
I know coming up with the loops can be something of a challenge. You think Billy might donate some material, maybe loop eight bars of one of his tracks? Just an idea. I know the real monster challenge for you is getting all the submissions lined up ....

Billy actually does his own community play-along ... and I have already made plans for this years community project. Thanks for thinking of me though!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on March 09, 2009, 08:24 AM
Can we have something straighter this year whether it's in three or two so we can really do some shredding if we want?

I need the practice  ;D and I really feel like playing some notes this year.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on March 10, 2009, 12:39 PM
I've finally archived the solos in one place.

You can watch the community groove from last year, and listen to the community solos from previous years.
 http://www.drummercafe.com/music-industry/featured-articles/community-drum-percussion-groove-solo.html]
http://www.drummercafe.com/music-industry/featured-articles/community-drum-percussion-groove-solo.html
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: frankbriggs on March 11, 2009, 08:19 AM
I've finally archived the solos in one place.

You can watch the community groove from last year, and listen to the community solos from previous years.
 http://www.drummercafe.com/music-industry/featured-articles/community-drum-percussion-groove-solo.html]
http://www.drummercafe.com/music-industry/featured-articles/community-drum-percussion-groove-solo.html

I'm in..
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on March 11, 2009, 11:56 AM
That would be awesome Frank.  You, Mr.A, David Crigger and Doug Tann... I think I might have to pass this year  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: eardrum on March 11, 2009, 03:00 PM
No stinking way you get a pass Felix!!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on March 11, 2009, 03:44 PM
No stinking way you get a pass Felix!!
Yea Felix,
You have to play some notes this year?? Wouldn't be the same without the world greatest drummer. I am going to put more time into it this year. I have a new wife that supports it and some equipment to try out. Starting to get excited just reading about everyone talking about it.
               Nutty
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: JeepnDrummer on March 11, 2009, 05:47 PM
I now have a recording interface and mics, so I think it's about time I get in on this.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Todd Norris on March 11, 2009, 07:51 PM
So Bart, what do you have in mind?   ;D  May as well spill the beans! 

I have an interesting idea that I want to try... 
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Erk on March 13, 2009, 02:01 AM
wish i could participate, but have no mics or recording equipment..:/
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: NY Frank on March 13, 2009, 05:57 AM
wish i could participate, but have no mics or recording equipment..:/

Neither do I, and I participated last year.  :)

If you can get your computer into the same room as your kit, that
and a cheapie mic, and your in business.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on March 13, 2009, 08:10 AM
wish i could participate, but have no mics or recording equipment..:/

Keep in mind that the Community Solo is now in a video format ... so you now only need a video camera. Perhaps you can borrow one. Or use a webcam.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on March 13, 2009, 08:17 AM
Keep in mind that the Community Solo is now in a video format ... so you now only need a video camera. Perhaps you can borrow one. Or use a webcam.
Hey Bart,
Is it possible to just mail you an 8mm tape or does it need to be converted into some other format?
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on March 13, 2009, 08:57 AM
Hey Bart,
Is it possible to just mail you an 8mm tape or does it need to be converted into some other format?

I just don't have time anymore to pull footage from tape like I did in years past. I need the submissions to come electronically in some sort of video format. I'm sure you can find someone that can help with that if you can't do it. And for a very small investment, less than $50, you can purchase a device (with software) that will take an analog signal and run it via USB to your computer. If the camera has USB or Firewire, you can import it to your computer and send me the file. I'll edit the file; I just don't have the extra time to import the footage from a tape. If you get stuck, perhaps I can make an exception.  ;)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on March 13, 2009, 09:04 AM
And for a very small investment, less than $50, you can purchase a device (with software) that will take an analog signal and run it via USB to your computer. If the camera has USB or Firewire, you can import it to your computer and send me the file.
There are a few places that I have used locally to convert Tape to digital format but to keep using them and paying them, I would have to agree that it would be cheaper in the long run to just buy the soft ware. Thanks Bart
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Erk on March 13, 2009, 02:34 PM
Keep in mind that the Community Solo is now in a video format ... so you now only need a video camera. Perhaps you can borrow one. Or use a webcam.

bart i do have a video camera...so how would i go about uploading the footage?
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on March 13, 2009, 04:37 PM
Check your camera's instruction manual to see how you can import your video footage from the camera to the computer. If you can do that, you'll just save the video as a .MOV, .WMV or the like.

We are still a few weeks away from starting the community solo. I'll be providing all the details at that time. I also give everyone a good month to record their solos, so there's plenty of time.

To get a feel for it, if you can't wait, do a search for past threads on the Community Solo, like the one from last year. You'll find most of the instructions from last year will be the same for this year, with the exception of the tempo and play-along track that we'll be using.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on March 13, 2009, 06:21 PM
That would be awesome Frank.  You, Mr.A, David Crigger and Doug Tann... I think I might have to pass this year  ::) ;D

Show some triplets Felix, first class all the the way!

It's great having you participate this year Frank!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on March 13, 2009, 07:13 PM
I can GUARANTEE I'm in this year, just not sure in what way yet.  ;D
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: dizz on March 13, 2009, 11:38 PM
Is Video manditory for participation?

What about a still?  I have no video capability but I can record audio.

I am really looking forward to this too!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on March 14, 2009, 12:14 AM
Is Video manditory for participation?

What about a still?  I have no video capability but I can record audio.

I am really looking forward to this too!

Check out last years community event. We had video and audio (with stills). It's all good! You can just record your solo and send me a still shot to use. If you don't provide a photo I get to provide one for you ... and you don't want that! See last year's solo to see what one guy ended up looking like. hahaha
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on March 16, 2009, 02:01 PM
So ... what time signature? We're sort of due for a 3/4 aren't we? That would set up my inevitable excuses ...

"No, I wasn't missing 1, I was playing over the bar ... Felix's bar."
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: eardrum on March 17, 2009, 01:17 AM
And I was flat under the bar.........
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Patrick Quigley on March 17, 2009, 07:27 AM
I've missed this the last two years, I HAVE to get in on this year's solo.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on March 25, 2009, 01:49 PM
Hey Guys,

Count me in!!

Hannah
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on March 26, 2009, 06:42 AM
My licks are getting particularly dangerous this year.  Wonder what kit I should use?

I actually have quite a knack for playing in 3 I found out in school so that wouldn't bother me.

7/8 is the tough one for me.  Don't make the loop in 7/8- please!

Straight 4 would be great- nothing but click then everyone could just blow their heads off and it would be easy for Bart.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on March 26, 2009, 09:55 AM
Straight 4 would be great- nothing but click then everyone could just blow their heads off and it would be easy for Bart.


You're right, it would be a lot easier for me editing wise ... however, using only a click track really defeats the whole purpose of why I started the "community" solo. I'd like us to do something more musical, together, and bring the community together with more than just a cowbell marking quarter-notes.  8)  Sorry
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on March 26, 2009, 03:24 PM
I'm over it  ;D  I don't know why it defeats the purpose of a community solo tho'- not to debate you my friend, I just don't see it that way- at all.  The "community" is going to be there whether a loop is or not. 

Personally I have no problem making a drum solo sound "musical" by itself.  Now that actually puts alot of responsibility in our laps without having a loop "crutch" to act as the music/groove device- my opinion obviously

But It's your show! of which I luv and respect! PEACE!!!!

Ok back to our regularly scheduled program  :)

Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on March 26, 2009, 03:45 PM
Personally I have no problem making a drum solo sound "musical" by itself.  Now that actually puts alot of responsibility in our laps without having a loop "crutch" to act as the music/groove device- my opinion obviously

Well, I understand, I'm sure you are quite capable, but not everyone is a soloist.

My point is that if we only use a click (ie. cowbell), it's still a free-for-all with only the tempo in common. I am not a huge fan of drum solos to begin with. I don't see a point to taking a bunch of free-for-all solos and connecting them together. The performers have no idea what other performers are doing, so there's no cohesion. For me, community implies cohesion.

The thought of 20+ drum solos strung together into one long solo makes me want to hurl (sorry).

Let's take a vote. The "community solo" is for the community, not me personally.

Voice your opinion. Do you want a click track (eg. cowbell) to solo to, or do you want some sort of a loop to play along to?
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Chip Donaho on March 26, 2009, 04:24 PM
Sorry guys/gals....But I would prefer to just cut loose with whatever comes at the moment. I'm known to go with whatever comes across my mind. I may jump from one tempo to another on a whim. Then back to what I started with and onto another beat completely. I tend to mix things up in a solo. I may start with something that sounds similar to Wipeout and go to something similar to Rascals. Or even a fast shuffle to the end. I like leaving people going  :o
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on March 26, 2009, 05:14 PM
Hmmm. I thought the coolest thing about the solo was Bart's challenge with the track. Open solo? Meh. Boring. We don't have a lot of Dave Weckls among us, and even Weckl loses me after two or three minutes.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: NY Frank on March 26, 2009, 05:23 PM
Absatively vote for a loop/tune - not just a click/bell.

It's about music, brothers and sisters.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: kmaley on March 26, 2009, 05:56 PM

The thought of 20+ drum solos strung together into one long solo makes me want to hurl (sorry).



I agree with Bart on this.
I vote loop.

Totally random but is there a reason Felix's solo always follows Gaetano's ;)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on March 26, 2009, 06:09 PM
Totally random but is there a reason Felix's solo always follows Gaetano's ;)

The solos are typically placed in the order I received them. There have been times that I've moved a few around for musical and/or technical reasons. Other than that, it's random.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on March 26, 2009, 07:43 PM
Bart,
I am game for a click or loop or a free-for-all. It really doesn't matter to me. I will work with what ever you give us.
I think that the music loop is easier to play with but I am OK with what ever U choose.
                             Nutty
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Robyn on March 26, 2009, 08:46 PM
Absatively vote for a loop/tune - not just a click/bell.

It's about music, brothers and sisters.

I don't think I'm quite ready to participate, but I really enjoyed listening to last year's CS, and liked best a few of you who really made the track groove!  So I have to agree w/ Frank and Bart.  Last years' really flowed together well and sounded like one cool, long song.  I'm not a big fan of solos either, but maybe that's b/c I'm not there yet. ;D

robyn
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Todd Norris on March 26, 2009, 11:13 PM
I like the challenge of finding something to work with a loop. 
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on March 27, 2009, 12:18 PM

Totally random but is there a reason Felix's solo always follows Gaetano's ;)

We are in First Class all the way!!!  ;D

I don't personally have any preferences, either click or loop will be fine to me...

Hey Felix if the click track will not happen for the community solo, we can do a duet in a separate project together!  ;D Show some triplets Felix!  8)

Rock on guys, the time is getting closer.....
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Chonson on March 27, 2009, 09:12 PM
Loop, no question.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on March 28, 2009, 09:22 AM
I'm good with the click or the loop....

Preference???  Definitely LOOP!  Let's make some music... :D

Hannah
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on March 30, 2009, 08:15 AM
I might participate this year Gaetano- I don't know yet.  I might just kick back and listen to all the great drummers out there.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: NY Frank on March 30, 2009, 04:19 PM
Cmon felix - don't be holding out on us.  Your participation is required.

If anyone should be bowing out and not wasting people's time, it's - me.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on March 30, 2009, 05:39 PM
I've never done it, but am thinking about it. We'll have to see if my kornputer skills are worthy!  :P

btw: how much does the winner win again??   8) ;D :-* ::) :P
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: NY Frank on March 30, 2009, 06:48 PM
btw: how much does the winner win again??   8) ;D :-* ::) :P

The opportunity to participate again the following year.    :)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on March 30, 2009, 06:58 PM
I might participate this year Gaetano- I don't know yet.  I might just kick back and listen to all the great drummers out there.
Come on Cat man. It wouldn't be the same without Felix!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on March 30, 2009, 07:02 PM
Quote
btw: how much does the winner win again??

Maybe I should pay everyone and handsome fee for allowing me to participate.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: dizz on March 31, 2009, 02:13 AM
Ya, felix -we need you to represent Sonor  8)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on March 31, 2009, 07:21 AM
ha ha.  I don't know- I'll see if I dig the loop or not  ;D

You guys really want to hear Mr. A, Doug Tann, David C. and Gaetano (Hannah's no slouch either).  Plus there are always a few the come out of the woodwork and really shred.

Like I said I might just wanna chill- I've had a rough year.   No big deal.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Pedersen on March 31, 2009, 05:06 PM
Probably not going to participate (no video access) but I would vote for a loop as opposed to a click. Get your groove on!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on March 31, 2009, 06:17 PM
I've been narrowing down my ideas for the "loop". The challenge is to try and have something that works as a play-along, not too busy, not too sparse, not too boring ... and won't drive you crazy hearing it over and over again within the final mix.

So ...

What do you think of grooving/soloing over the bass-line from Herbie Hancock's "Chameleon"? Tempo wise, around the tempo that the Head Hunters played it (live); not as slow and greasy as Maynard Ferguson played it. This should allow people to rock-out, funk it up, displace, whatever you want. There's enough to play-along to, but not so much that it will put you in a box. I'll still provide a loop mix with and without click ... just like last year.

Unless there's a unanimous outcry of "NO" ... this is what we'll do.

I may overdub other instruments (keyboard pad, etc.) after I've mixed all the solos ... if needed ... but for now, just bass groove to play to.

Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on March 31, 2009, 07:18 PM
What do you think of grooving/soloing over the bass-line from Herbie Hancock's "Chameleon"?
Unless there's a unanimous outcry of "NO" ... this is what we'll do.

I may overdub other instruments (keyboard pad, etc.) after I've mixed all the solos ... if needed ... but for now, just bass groove to play to.


Man, I love that song. This will be awesome. Thanks
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Todd Norris on March 31, 2009, 11:24 PM
What do you think of grooving/soloing over the bass-line from Herbie Hancock's "Chameleon"? Tempo wise, around the tempo that the Head Hunters played it (live); not as slow and greasy as Maynard Ferguson played it. This should allow people to rock-out, funk it up, displace, whatever you want. There's enough to play-along to, but not so much that it will put you in a box. I'll still provide a loop mix with and without click ... just like last year.

Unless there's a unanimous outcry of "NO" ... this is what we'll do.

I may overdub other instruments (keyboard pad, etc.) after I've mixed all the solos ... if needed ... but for now, just bass groove to play to.



EXCELLENT!  I don't even need to download your loop.  I've got the tune right here on my iPod!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: David Crigger on April 01, 2009, 05:19 AM
Bart - I think Chameleon would be a great choice. If I might venture a suggestion - which might help break it up more - maybe a choice between two backgrounds? Like maybe the regular bass line vamp loop to play over - or - something with a fixed scheme like four free clicks, eight bars of the main loop, then the two bar release figure - "ba-baaa--ba-baa----ba-be-da-be-di-baa...daa...".  Folks could play over one or the other - and the occasional "scheme" would provide some welcome change and relief from the same two bars over and over.

I don't know - just a thought.. :-)

david
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 01, 2009, 07:37 AM
Bart - I think Chameleon would be a great choice. If I might venture a suggestion - which might help break it up more - maybe a choice between two backgrounds? Like maybe the regular bass line vamp loop to play over - or - something with a fixed scheme like four free clicks, eight bars of the main loop, then the two bar release figure - "ba-baaa--ba-baa----ba-be-da-be-di-baa...daa...".  Folks could play over one or the other - and the occasional "scheme" would provide some welcome change and relief from the same two bars over and over.

Great minds think alike.  ;) 
I was planning to do something very much like that. I wasn't thinking of having two choices, other than with and without click.

What I'm still not sure about is whether 8-bars is enough, given the tempo. Doubling seems too long, so perhaps your suggestions of 8+2 would suffice.

What about 8 bars, plus the 2 bar figure, plus one additional that holds the last note of the previous bar? The "hold" bar would have the bass pick-up notes. Without the extra bar, the bass pick-up notes (AND 4 AND) would come immediately following the release figure that David so cleverly notated.  ;)

I'll play with it and see what sounds best. The nice thing about the additional bar (8+2+1) is that the previous soloist would end with the release figure, and the next soloist could play into the next series of 8, with the pick-up notes. It would allow the soloist to set-up their solo ... if they wanted ... or leave it open, which would allow the entire composition to breathe even more. I also like it because it would give an odd phrasing to the composition.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on April 01, 2009, 12:06 PM
This is going to be WAY COOL!!

Can't wait...
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: David Crigger on April 01, 2009, 12:25 PM
Great minds think alike.  ;) 
I was planning to do something very much like that. I wasn't thinking of having two choices, other than with and without click.

What I'm still not sure about is whether 8-bars is enough, given the tempo. Doubling seems too long, so perhaps your suggestions of 8+2 would suffice.

What about 8 bars, plus the 2 bar figure, plus one additional that holds the last note of the previous bar? The "hold" bar would have the bass pick-up notes. Without the extra bar, the bass pick-up notes (AND 4 AND) would come immediately following the release figure that David so cleverly notated.  ;)

I'll play with it and see what sounds best. The nice thing about the additional bar (8+2+1) is that the previous soloist would end with the release figure, and the next soloist could play into the next series of 8, with the pick-up notes. It would allow the soloist to set-up their solo ... if they wanted ... or leave it open, which would allow the entire composition to breathe even more. I also like it because it would give an odd phrasing to the composition.

I love the "extra" bar idea - makes it a little mini-song/arrangement, right around that sweet spot length-wise like last year's 12 bar scheme.

david
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on April 01, 2009, 12:59 PM
http://www.last.fm/music/Herbie+Hancock/_/Chameleon?autostart

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y27pTveV2QE
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on April 01, 2009, 01:15 PM
Nice.  I love Dennis.  We use to jam on that one in my old fusion band.  We did Watermelon Man too.  Too bad we never got around to recording any of it.

Prolly still going to sit this one out tho' and listen to you guys funk yourselves to pieces.  hmmm, boy I might change my mind- a man has a right to change his mind.   ;)

Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 01, 2009, 01:27 PM
probably still going to sit this one out tho' and listen to you guys funk yourselves to pieces.  hmmm, boy I might change my mind- a man has a right to change his mind.   ;)

You don't have to "funk it" ... you can do whatever you want. In fact I hope that no one even plays the original groove to "Chameleon"!

We will be playing faster than this ... FYI.

I would suggest that felix and everyone else WAIT to hear the loop before making decisions to not participate.  ;D

It's a misconception that you have to play anything that even sounds close to the original groove or that goes with the loop. Make your solo/groove sound and feel good with the loop. You don't have to displace the backbeat or play anything like the original.

I would suggest not even watching the video Gaddabout posted. Be original, do what YOU would do with the groove ... and by all means ... have fun!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on April 01, 2009, 02:32 PM
Did I spoil it already? I've listened to that song so many times, I don't know how I'll possibly get outside that mindset, but I do enjoy this challenge. That is a legendary bass line!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 01, 2009, 02:56 PM
Did I spoil it already? I've listened to that song so many times, I don't know how I'll possibly get outside that mindset, but I do enjoy this challenge. That is a legendary bass line!

I understand ... but I don't want to put anyone in that mindset if they've not played the tune or listened to it much. Some people, who can't play the displacement, will feel that they have to ... and thus not participate. That's my concern. Just like felix immediately saying that he'll let everyone else do the funk thing. It doesn't have to be funk. There are hundreds of different ways to approach this ... and I hope everyone will try to stretch themselves and come up with something unique.  ;D
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: dizz on April 01, 2009, 03:37 PM
I love how this is evolving.

Bart I'm probably late for the suggestion train, and I do like the chameleon idea, but maybe next year .....

..... I was thinking Fire on the Bayou by the Meters might be a nice foundational groove to work with.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Erk on April 01, 2009, 10:49 PM
http://www.last.fm/music/Herbie+Hancock/_/Chameleon?autostart

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y27pTveV2QE

the headhunters album is one of the best albums ever made...id love to do something like this for the drum solo  ;)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on April 02, 2009, 08:30 AM
 ;D  I'm not saying anything anymore!   :-X
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 02, 2009, 09:16 AM
;D  I'm not saying anything anymore!   :-X

You are a hoot!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 02, 2009, 09:30 AM
Did I spoil it already? I've listened to that song so many times, I don't know how I'll possibly get outside that mindset, but I do enjoy this challenge. That is a legendary bass line!
+1 Gad. I have played it before in a band and loosing the story line may be tough. I was playing around with the 14+ minute song last night trying to come up with something that is different but still works with it. As you said, I do also, enjoy the challenge ;D. This is going to be a lot of fun ;).
                     Nutty
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Chip Donaho on April 02, 2009, 10:03 AM
Is there a time limit we need to have it in by?  ???
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 02, 2009, 10:20 AM
Is there a time limit we need to have it in by?  ???

Once I finish the loop I'll make an annoucement. You'll be able to download the play-along track, record or video tape yourself playing ... then submit your solo. I'm planning, at this point, to give everyone the entire month of April to record their solos ... so deadline will be April 30th.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Robyn on April 02, 2009, 11:36 PM
How does one record this? Do you have to have extra-speshul recording equipment or can you just have someone record w/ a regular tape recorder or a digital camera?  I'm willing to give it a whirl if I can record w/ something simple.  I do finally "have the technology" to actually download the track.  If nothing else, I'll do that and have a bit of fun w/ it, even if I don't send anything in.  :)

Maybe I can record it on the church kit/sound equipment'; even have a real soundguy for that stuff.  But it wouldn't be on my kit tho--that'd be sad.  :'(

robyn
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Erk on April 03, 2009, 02:11 PM
bart are you going to put videos up even if they suck real bad? most like ly mine will lol.   ::)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 03, 2009, 02:22 PM
bart are you going to put videos up even if they suck real bad? most like ly mine will lol.   ::)

If you submit it ... it will be included in the community solo.  ;D

In years past we've had one or two that I couldn't use simply because the form that soloist used was off and I couldn't correct it. I try to make everyone sound good, and have been known to nudge the track here and there to try to make it sit more in the pocket (when it's been fairly off).  8) I don't do a bunch of editing (no time or desire).

FYI ... I've finished creating the loop; uploading and posting all the details later today (hopefully).
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 03, 2009, 03:19 PM
Okay, here it is:

 http://www.drummercafe.com/the-fifth-annual-drummer-cafe-community-solo.html]http://www.drummercafe.com/the-fifth-annual-drummer-cafe-community-solo.html

Go to this page, read the instructions and download the groove loop.

For those that aren't familiar with the process, I plan to make a short video tutorial for the community solo in the next few days.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on April 03, 2009, 07:42 PM
Wow. That's brisk.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on April 03, 2009, 07:46 PM
Great Bart!
I am on the way to a gig right now, but I can't wait tomorrow to download the loop and check it out!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 03, 2009, 08:29 PM
Wow. That's brisk.

I warned you. ;D That's one way to break out of the habit.  ;)

Just remember, we aren't playing "Chameleon" ... we are playing to a groove that uses the same bass line.

I like the tempo, but if you all feel we need to pull it back ...  ::) I will.  ;D
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 03, 2009, 09:41 PM
Got to play with it tonight for about 20 min. Fun to play with. Very nice and like Gad said, "Brisk".
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Robyn on April 03, 2009, 10:59 PM
FUN!!! ;D

robyn
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: dizz on April 03, 2009, 11:44 PM
Tempo is fine imho
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on April 04, 2009, 02:24 AM
I warned you. ;D That's one way to break out of the habit.  ;)

Just remember, we aren't playing "Chameleon" ... we are playing to a groove that uses the same bass line.

I like the tempo, but if you all feel we need to pull it back ...  ::) I will.  ;D

If I stick with my ideas the tempo is fine. Don't change it for me. I just wasn't expecting it. hehe
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: David Crigger on April 04, 2009, 02:37 AM
If I stick with my ideas the tempo is fine.

I can't think of anyone else's ideas I'd rather hear you play.  ;)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: NY Frank on April 04, 2009, 08:37 AM
Yes, "brisk."

No reason to change, imho, but, yes, "brisk."   :)

[Not sure I'm doing it this year.  Which will be a good thing for the overall quality if I stay away.]
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 04, 2009, 09:46 AM
Brisk is a good thing ... it's time for some of you grandmas to get the lead out! (https://www.drummercafe.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drummercafe.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2Femoticons%2Fhot.gif&hash=c36ccb3c961fd54b4d82b95e2a7b2d36)

I'll be sure to make next year's accompaniment track more of a dirge. (https://www.drummercafe.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drummercafe.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2Femoticons%2Fnopity.gif&hash=3a47443d73ebfb18a0ea4b779823f2c9)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 04, 2009, 10:28 AM
It is COOL Bart 8). Not complaining here ::). It gives us something to work with ;D.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: frankbriggs on April 04, 2009, 05:53 PM
I am late on this.
Is there something posted? My studio is down for a couple weeks.
When is this happening?
-fb
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: JeepnDrummer on April 04, 2009, 05:58 PM
I am late on this.
Is there something posted? My studio is down for a couple weeks.
When is this happening?
-fb
Frank,

See post #77 on previous page of this thread
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: frankbriggs on April 04, 2009, 06:01 PM
got it... thanks!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on April 04, 2009, 09:36 PM
I can't think of anyone else's ideas I'd rather hear you play.  ;)

Famous last words.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on April 05, 2009, 12:32 AM
Frank Briggs,
It will be great having you on the community solo this year.

Felix,
You got to do this man, it won't be the same... Show some triplets man!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on April 05, 2009, 10:31 AM
Nice Groove...tempo's fine!

Oh yea.....

Hannah
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: frankbriggs on April 05, 2009, 02:26 PM
Frank Briggs,
It will be great having you on the community solo this year.

Felix,
You got to do this man, it won't be the same... Show some triplets man!

thanks Gaetano
If I can pull it off it will be the first thing recorded in my new studio.
You guys might have to wait on me a little.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on April 06, 2009, 08:28 AM
You can thank my first class all the way main man Gaetano- Ciao Bella!!!!!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: frankbriggs on April 06, 2009, 09:29 PM
You can thank my first class all the way main man Gaetano- Ciao Bella!!!!!

Yes...Gaetano, Thanks!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on April 07, 2009, 08:06 AM
I'll show you guys "brisk"
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 07, 2009, 11:23 AM
I've added a very short video clip to explain the process of participating in the community solo. If you are confused with the form of the solo, you might want to watch this video as I demo the play-along track while explaining what to do.

http://www.drummercafe.com/the-fifth-annual-drummer-cafe-community-solo.html

If anyone has further questions, please post them in this thread.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: dizz on April 07, 2009, 11:34 AM
I really love the whole idea of this community drum play-along.

I wish we could do it more often than annually.  I know it's probably a ton of work for you though, Bart.

Thanks for hosting 

Lets make some music :)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 15, 2009, 08:54 AM
Don't forget about working on your solo ... only two weeks left!

Don't delay ... record it today!  ;D
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: NY Frank on April 15, 2009, 04:46 PM
I think my best choice for all is - to be a spectator.

Go get em.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on April 15, 2009, 06:10 PM
I'm thinking, I'm thinking!!   :-\
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 15, 2009, 07:14 PM
Just bought a new digital, Stereo Camera. Getting excited.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on April 15, 2009, 07:22 PM
Quote
Just bought a new digital, Stereo Camera.

So,... it has a lens for each eye???!!   :o
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 15, 2009, 08:29 PM
So,... it has a lens for each eye???!!   :o
Jon E, That would be called Stereo Video. Never thought about it really. Now I just have to fake drummin' the best I can.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on April 18, 2009, 09:23 AM
GULP!!  :-\   OK, the pressure is now on.  I mentioned the CommDrumSolo to my wife.  She thought it was the perfect "reason" to buy a video camera.  She got it yesterday.   Hopefully I (meaning SHE--since she is the techie at our house) can put something together by the end of the month.

Yikes!!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: NY Frank on April 18, 2009, 02:16 PM
... She thought it was the perfect "reason" to buy a video camera.  She got it yesterday...

Now that's a great wife.      :D
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: dizz on April 18, 2009, 10:05 PM
Bart

Can I send you separate audio and video and have you fuse them or do I need to find some software somewhere and get that done.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 18, 2009, 10:31 PM
Bart

Can I send you separate audio and video and have you fuse them or do I need to find some software somewhere and get that done.

Unfortunately I don't have time to be putting that kind of thing together. With as short of a clip as it is you can probably make it work okay, but when you record video and audio on separate devices that aren't in sync (eg. SMPTE), they go out of phase very quickly.

I'll need everyone to send me their solos just as you want them to be (aka finished), all put together and ready for me to drop in and add the accompaniment track.

For those individuals who are shooting HD video or have video files that are just too big for your email service to handle, burn the solo to a DATA disc ... key word here is DATA ... and mail to me using the address on the Drummer Cafe contact page.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 19, 2009, 06:41 AM
GULP!!  :-\   OK, the pressure is now on.  I mentioned the CommDrumSolo to my wife.  She thought it was the perfect "reason" to buy a video camera.  She got it yesterday.   Hopefully I (meaning SHE--since she is the techie at our house) can put something together by the end of the month.

Yikes!!
Jon,
Looking forward to seeing and hearing what you put out. I have to agree with Felix. If your drumming is anything like your humor, it should be fun to see into your world of drumming. I got my camera yesterday. Now I have work to do. What a way to learn about a camera ;D.
                             Nutty
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on April 19, 2009, 09:37 AM
Ok.
I got my solo done yesterday, but when I was ready to send it I found out that the size of the file (.avi) is way too big to send via email (120 MB). So,I was talking to Bart about it and I decided to burn it on a data CD and send it on Monday.
So watch out for who can record a video on high resolution.

Ciao
Gaetano
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: JeepnDrummer on April 19, 2009, 06:10 PM
Unfortunately I don't have time to be putting that kind of thing together. With as short of a clip as it is you can probably make it work okay, but when you record video and audio on separate devices that aren't in sync (eg. SMPTE), they go out of phase very quickly.
If you record audio and video separately, be sure to record audio at 48 kHz, as this is the sampling rate most video equipment uses.  Check your video user guide to be sure.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on April 21, 2009, 05:58 AM
OK, the new video camera is up and running.  It has reminded me of a great lesson:  If you want to see how your REALLY play/sound, record yourself! :o

{grumblegrumblegrumble}
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: dizz on April 21, 2009, 03:05 PM
Wow I know what you mean Jon haha

I have a question on preference.

Should I send in a video with horrible sound quality or just an audio sample of good sound quality with a still.  What would the consensus be on this?

I cannot combine the good audio with video.  The video's audio has a built in condenser but the cymbals are just totally distorting the mic.  I will try one more thing (set camera in an adjacent room with line of sight and see if distance eliminates the distortion.)

What would you guys rather I send in?
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 21, 2009, 03:10 PM
The video's audio has a built in condenser but the cymbals are just totally distorting the mic. 

OPTION: don't use any cymbals

OPTION #2: adjust your playing accordingly; perhaps don't strike the cymbals as hard.


What would you guys rather I send in?

Whatever works for you. I'm sure that some will send audio with a still shot. Great video with poor audio is probably not the way to go.

If you can't get good video and audio together, just go with good audio and a still shot of you with your drum set-up.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on April 23, 2009, 09:06 PM
Aye ca-rumba! This has been the most frustrating 25 seconds of my life!  I'm a grooveless wonder!  :'(
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 23, 2009, 10:05 PM
Aye ca-rumba! This has been the most frustrating 25 seconds of my life!  I'm a grooveless wonder!  :'(
Your not alone. Not sure I am going to get it done. I will keep trying. New camera, trying to do it by myself ::).
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on April 24, 2009, 05:50 AM
My wife keeps reminding me ithis should be a fun thing to do.  Yeah, it should.  (grumblegrumblegrumble)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 24, 2009, 07:40 AM
Yeah ... have fun!

There's only one more week left so get in there and record your solo ... if you  haven't do so yet.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: frankbriggs on April 24, 2009, 04:50 PM
Yeah ... have fun!

There's only one more week left so get in there and record your solo ... if you  haven't do so yet.

I just got wired up here... do I still have time? What is the deadline date?
I loaded the tracks today and played a little to it... still working on drum sounds and I have a ton of errands etc.
sorry I have been out of the loop.
-fb
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 24, 2009, 05:53 PM
I just got wired up here... do I still have time? What is the deadline date?
I loaded the tracks today and played a little to it... still working on drum sounds and I have a ton of errands etc.
sorry I have been out of the loop.
-fb


Deadline is April 30th ... then I start mixing. You've got time. And don't sweat "drum sounds" man ... your playing will be schooling most of us anyway, no need to stick it to us with incredible drum sounds too.  :)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on April 24, 2009, 06:35 PM
Sorry Frank.  No Ringers!!   ;)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 24, 2009, 07:02 PM
Okay ... I've received solos from Gaetano and Jon E thus far.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on April 24, 2009, 07:59 PM
As always Mr. Bart,

I'm going to be right down to the wire.  I'll do the best I can to have you something by the end of the week.....

Off to a GIG!

Hannah
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on April 24, 2009, 09:14 PM
Quote
Okay ... I've received solos from Gaetano and Jon E thus far.

That's not even a fair fight!  :-[
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: frankbriggs on April 24, 2009, 09:27 PM
Deadline is April 30th ... then I start mixing. You've got time. And don't sweat "drum sounds" man ... your playing will be schooling most of us anyway, no need to stick it to us with incredible drum sounds too.  :)

This will be the first recording out of my new room.. which is cool.
ok. I should have something soon.
Peace
-fb
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on April 24, 2009, 11:06 PM
Good to know Bart!
I did not have a lot of time to play with it, but I hope it is ok!
Oh well, it is done anyhow
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on April 25, 2009, 05:28 AM
THIS LOOKS FUN.  I played funk once.

I'm going to try okay.  PM sent to BART!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on April 25, 2009, 05:39 AM
Quote
THIS LOOKS FUN.  I played funk once.

So have I, now. And like a Bigfoot sighting, there is some questionable, grainy video of its existence.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on April 25, 2009, 02:01 PM
My friend has a video camera.  My dad won't buy me one and I hate mowing the lawn.

Prollyu just going to take a cell phone pic
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Robyn on April 25, 2009, 02:06 PM
Oooo! Are ya gonna play the solo on that First Act kit? Way cool, dood!

robyn
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Robyn on April 25, 2009, 04:10 PM
Okey-dokey, Bart. We finally got a chance to record this, it turned out pretty well (for me, anyway ::)), simple, but hopefully okay. I will have to snail-mail it, so it will go out on Monday. File is too big to email. Thank goodness the spousal unit is computer-savvy, otherwise I'd be here all day, waiting... ::)

robyn
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 25, 2009, 07:02 PM
Well I'm close Bart Man. Got something recorded and it is on this computer but I have to figure out how to mail it when I am happy with it. Tried to edit it to only leave you with one take but I have been doing it like the sample, in a set of two. Haven't gotten used to this new soft ware yet. I will try one more recording tonight to see if I can get anything better. If not, I will send you what I have. Do you mind pulling the lesser of the two off? I am almost ashamed to say, with as bad of a cymbal freak as I am ::), I couldn't find a place for anything but a Hi Hat :-X.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 26, 2009, 01:47 PM
Hey Bart man,
Got something coming to you. Let me know if there is a problem?
                   Mark
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on April 26, 2009, 02:04 PM
Just sent mine in Mr Bart!!  I used the entire loop knowing you're only going to keep the last 11 measures...

Wish the acoustics were a little better my rehearsal site.

Let me know if you need anything else.

Thanks for the work...this is always fun!

Peace Love & Drums...

Hannah
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 26, 2009, 02:32 PM
Hey Bart man,
Got something coming to you. Let me know if there is a problem?
                   Mark
Well, I have cable with a large mail box and the file is 19.2meg. It keeps telling me that the file is to big. I guess I am going to have to burn it to
a data disc and mail it?
                         Nutty
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 26, 2009, 02:48 PM
Well, I have cable with a large mail box and the file is 19.2meg. It keeps telling me that the file is to big. I guess I am going to have to burn it to
a data disc and mail it?
                         Nutty

Unless you know how to compress it without reducing the quality.

Probably best to just mail it in.

Also, Hannah, I've not received anything via email; perhaps you meant you've mailed it to me.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on April 26, 2009, 05:38 PM
Hey Bart,

Yea it kicked back the file was to large.  I resent it using yousendit.com

It's what I have to do sometimes when sending large file such as this. It's a very cool service.

You should have it now.

Hannah
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on April 26, 2009, 05:41 PM
Bart we shot this vid on the move...I mean using a small camera in vid mode and late for the next rehearsal ON THE MOVE...LOL

If the quality is not up to par let me know and I'll try to get something else done this week some time.

Hannah
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 26, 2009, 05:59 PM
Unless you know how to compress it without reducing the quality.

Probably best to just mail it in.

I can't get to a post office until Wednesday. I might as well try it again and get a better recording while I have time.
I resent it using yousendit.com

Hannah
I will try this service, thanks Hannah
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 26, 2009, 09:08 PM
I can't get to a post office until Wednesday. I might as well try it again and get a better recording while I have time.I will try this service, thanks Hannah
Hey Bart,
I just used the link Hannah used and it seems to have worked. When you have a chance, would you check it to make sure it is usable? If not, I will mail it.
It is a wmv file. For anyone else that is interested, you can sign up for the lite version and it is free to send X amount of large files. Pretty slick. Thanks again Hannah.
           Nutty
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on April 26, 2009, 11:52 PM
Hey Nutty,

Glad it worked out for you....it's been a life saver for us more than once.

Hannah
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Robyn on April 27, 2009, 01:06 AM
Thanks, Hannah!!  ;D You very well might have saved me a trip to the post office tomorrow! I tried Yousendit also, and it seems to have worked. (Bart, could you let me know that you were able to retrieve it?)

If it didn't work, I'll snail-mail it tomorrow.

robyn
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 28, 2009, 07:38 AM
I now have solos from Gaetano Nicolosi, Jon Solomonson, Frank Briggs, Mark Counts and Robyn Schultz.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 28, 2009, 09:34 AM
Also, please be sure to NOT include the loop in the mix with your solo. I'll add the loop here, post production; just send a recording of your solo with nothing else in the mix.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on April 28, 2009, 11:04 AM
I now have solos from Gaetano Nicolosi, Jon Solomonson, Frank Briggs, Mark Counts and Robyn Schultz.

Wooooo, you didn't receive mine?

 :(
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 28, 2009, 11:35 AM
Wooooo, you didn't receive mine?

Yes, I have yours too. I failed to retype your name; sorry.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on April 28, 2009, 11:50 AM
Shewwwww, thanks!

What's EVERYBODY waiting for...get those solos in folks!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on April 28, 2009, 02:28 PM
I'm waiting for next year.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 28, 2009, 02:47 PM
I'm waiting for next year.

Poor turnouts always increase the risk of not having it ... next year.  :-\
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Robyn on April 28, 2009, 03:10 PM
C'mon guys!!!  Me, in a solo w/ Gaetano, Bart, Hannah, Nutty, Frank B, and Jon?!!   :o This is frightening...

robyn  :'(
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on April 28, 2009, 03:10 PM
Yeah! We may have a community piano solo next year if people don't participate for the community drum solo. So, come on people, let's do this! It will be history!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on April 28, 2009, 03:16 PM
Can't use equipment for an excuse.  We shot mine with a regular digital camera...lol....it's not Hudson Video quality, but it was done with the spirit of the "Community" in mind....Wasn't really worried about video quality.

If there's anyone on the bubble, just jump in and do it.  If you have any questions or I can help in any way send me a note.

We don't want to loose this very special annual event to lack of participation.

Hannah
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on April 28, 2009, 06:00 PM
Felix,
Where are you? You know that we need you! Show some triplets!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 28, 2009, 07:37 PM
I'm waiting for next year.
Come on Bro,
Record something man!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 28, 2009, 08:00 PM
Wow I know what you mean Jon haha

I have a question on preference.

Should I send in a video with horrible sound quality or just an audio sample of good sound quality with a still.  What would the consensus be on this?

I cannot combine the good audio with video.  The video's audio has a built in condenser but the cymbals are just totally distorting the mic.  I will try one more thing (set camera in an adjacent room with line of sight and see if distance eliminates the distortion.)

What would you guys rather I send in?
dizz,
There were a whole bunch of folks last year that just sent a picture and audio of good quality. Try to get yours in man if you haven't already?
It doesn't have to be good video. I used a standard definition digital video camera with a stereo condenser mic. That is it. Your audio is probably better than mine. Come on drummers, get those Solo's in. This isn't a competition, it is for fun ;D 8).
                                       Nutty
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on April 29, 2009, 07:10 AM
Listen man, I've been playing and mixing for other projects and I have not had time for this.  I don't do things halfway either.

Serious; I'm not watching TV, bowling or going to baseball practice with my kid.  Just ain't had time for it- so quit the whining! 

I could probably get to it in a few weeks.  It would be great to extend the thing another month. 

Who wants to hear a noob play anyways? god. 
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: JeepnDrummer on April 29, 2009, 10:13 PM
Who wants to hear a noob play anyways?
That's the question running through my mind at the moment.  I recorded many takes and each one sounds like poop.  The recording quality is fine, but my playing has me rather disappointed.  The more simple I play, the better it gets, but still...

I'll give it one more go tomorrow and unless I can provide something that doesn't sound like an eight year old playing for the first time, I'm afraid I won't be sending anything in.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: dizz on April 29, 2009, 10:45 PM
I used Yousendit too.  I should be in unless for some reason I screwed up Yousendit for Bart.  Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Robyn on April 29, 2009, 11:03 PM
"What if I send in the tape and they don't like it? I mean, what if they say I'm no good? What if they say, 'get outta here kid. you got no future'? I mean, I just don't think I can take that kind of rejection.."  ::)


Well if you don't want to listen to a noob then don't listen to my 11 bars then.   :(

robyn
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on April 30, 2009, 07:16 AM
Jeez, it only took me ONE take (yeah I wish!).  I have lots of horrific out takes but finally sent in the least bad. I figured I ought to do it this year.

Now if Bart can give us next years theme I can get a jump on it!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on April 30, 2009, 07:29 AM
I'm extending the deadline through the weekend. If you only need a few days to finish ... now is your chance. I need to start mixing and editing on Monday or Tuesday so I can get this done before I go on the road for about 10 days. Part of this trip is to the Chicago Drum Show.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: dizz on April 30, 2009, 12:53 PM
Jeez, it only took me ONE take (yeah I wish!).  I have lots of horrific out takes but finally sent in the least bad. I figured I ought to do it this year.

Now if Bart can give us next years theme I can get a jump on it!

lol Jon  I have so many takes lying around I may have to reformat my hard drive  ;D
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on April 30, 2009, 03:25 PM
You guys are worrying too much.

Bart just throws out the ones he doesn't like anyways...no problem! LOL

We did mine in one take....probably spent a total of 30 min set, record, and breakdown.  When you see it you'll probably say I see why!  LOL  Unless of course I'm one of the solos BART throws out... :(

Have FUN!!!

Hannah

Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on April 30, 2009, 03:26 PM
I'm extending the deadline through the weekend. If you only need a few days to finish ... now is your chance. I need to start mixing and editing on Monday or Tuesday so I can get this done before I go on the road for about 10 days. Part of this trip is to the Chicago Drum Show.

Bart really looking forward to hanging at the Chicago Drum Show!  Hopefully, you and many others too, will be able to make it out to my gig on Saturday night.....Show a Drum Show armband and get in free!!!  NICE.....  ;D

Of course you were already on the guest list....
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on April 30, 2009, 04:09 PM
You guys are worrying too much.

Bart just throws out the ones he doesn't like anyways...no problem! LOL

We did mine in one take....probably spent a total of 30 min set, record, and breakdown.  When you see it you'll probably say I see why!  LOL  Unless of course I'm one of the solos BART throws out... :(

Have FUN!!!

Hannah


Yea, I guess I could be thrown out too Hannah ???. I went through the two 11 measure sets twice and took the best out of 4. Last year I only got one take. The X had no patience with me :'(. I thought mine was lame last year but Bart still let me in :P.  I tried to do a little better this time 8). I am really excited to see everyones solo this year. I think Bart picked a fantastic song to groove 2. All the folks that are stepping up to get theirs in, "YOU ROCK". It is what makes this place 1st Class all the Way, Right Gaetano?
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: NY Frank on April 30, 2009, 05:31 PM
I had a good revelation not long ago.

I have nothing to contribute.   

Now that I'm over that, I can continue to enjoy my gigging.
[accepting my super, super low - yet fun and life giving - place on the food chain]

Rock and roll.

Long live a mantra that serves me well:

Just Play.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Nathan Cartier on May 02, 2009, 11:32 AM
I'm gonna call a Drummer psychiatrist to come to this thread and make it lay down on a couch for a 45 minute session.

Just e-mailed a link to my solo.  Let me know if you have any trouble!

I love the community solo, it blows my mind that we can get so many different drummers grooving together over the internuts.

Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Todd Norris on May 02, 2009, 05:12 PM
I had a good revelation not long ago.

I have nothing to contribute.   

Now that I'm over that, I can continue to enjoy my gigging.
Long live a mantra that serves me well:

Just Play.


AMEN Brother.  Mine is incredibly simple, but it's done and on the way...
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on May 02, 2009, 06:04 PM
I can't wait to see what Frank B played on the syncopated ending. I'm sure I'm be thinking, "Yeah. That'll work, too."

Man, I hate that ending. It was like a drumming tongue twister. I wrote it out, I could sing it, but I still couldn't play anything with it or over it. Sad. Just sad.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Robyn on May 02, 2009, 08:04 PM
Well hey, sweetheart, how are you doing? It's good to have you back here w/ us. Been praying for you.  :)

robyn
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on May 02, 2009, 08:43 PM
I can't wait to see what Frank B played on the syncopated ending. I'm sure I'm be thinking, "Yeah. That'll work, too."

Man, I hate that ending. It was like a drumming tongue twister. I wrote it out, I could sing it, but I still couldn't play anything with it or over it. Sad. Just sad.
Hey Bro,
You getting in this year?? The syncopated ending in the song is really cool but there wasn't really enough to play with. Down load the sample Gad and
see what we were working with. It was mainly the main groove of the song. As Robyn said, and I think she was talking to you, good to see you post again.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on May 02, 2009, 08:45 PM
Yep, I'm in, thanks to Todd's amazing assistance. Thanks for the prayers, Robin. I needed them.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Erk on May 02, 2009, 09:21 PM
man id need like another week, but im aware its not just about me, ill try to find a digital camera.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: frankbriggs on May 03, 2009, 12:45 AM
Yep, I'm in, thanks to Todd's amazing assistance. Thanks for the prayers, Robin. I needed them.

You're the best Matt. Come to LA for a visit, I have a hug for you.

I was able to knock something out. I barely have my room running and my best friend came to visit for a week. Bart has some serious editing to do.

D'Cafe Rocks.

Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on May 03, 2009, 12:56 AM
You're the best Matt. Come to LA for a visit, I have a hug for you.

Hug. Riiiiiiight.  ;D I'm working up the driving calendar this week!

I was able to knock something out. I barely have my room running and my best friend came to visit for a week. Bart has some serious editing to do.

Between you and Gaetano, the bar has been raised pretty high this year. Can't wait to hear it!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: JeepnDrummer on May 03, 2009, 10:55 PM
Okay New York Frank, I got the message and submitted something.  How many takes?  I don't know...I lost count.  Most of what I tried turned out pathetic sounding.  Even my daughter was on hand to validate this opinion.  She really is such a good sport for enduring my noise-making.  ;D 

Anyway, I know the lot of you are rather polite, so here's my advanced thank you for not laughing too loudly when you hear my crap-solo.  :D
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on May 03, 2009, 11:21 PM
Hey Gaddabout,

Nice to see your post.....Glad you're in....  :)

Hannah
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: JeepnDrummer on May 04, 2009, 02:59 AM
I just realized that my solo sounds better through headphones with the volume cranked way up.  "Honey, do these headphones make my snare drum sound phat?"  ;D

I agree with Hannah, it's good to see that you're particpating in the community solo, Matt.....you've been in my thoughts and prayers.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bob Dias on May 04, 2009, 09:26 AM
Alright, mine's in. Scary, but in. Bob
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: NY Frank on May 04, 2009, 04:13 PM
Bob - I'm sure yours smokes.

I wish I had the heart to take the plunge this year, but with unemployment and some other Stuff, it's just not for me at this time.

But - this is a great opportunity for all.  For players of all skill levels, and DCers of all post counts.   :)

I hope more of you jump in the pool. 
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bob Dias on May 04, 2009, 04:38 PM
NYF...Smokes, as in "up in smoke".  Maybe more like sending "smoke signals"  I finally had a free day, finally excised the swine flu had hit my firewire interface, stumbled behind the kit, and played the groove I play on my blues band's version of "Hey Pocky Way".  I went back and listened to some of the previous DC solos...it was a reminder of why I have a day job. 

the shell is coming along nicely.
keep the faith...Bob
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: JeepnDrummer on May 04, 2009, 08:59 PM
Oh come on, Frank!  I did it (your encouragement helped) and I've been unemployed for the past six months.  Plus, I was just notified that my pension is being cut in half, which puts everything I own in jeopardy.  But, ya know?  Behind every cloud the sun is still shining!  :)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on May 04, 2009, 09:25 PM
Oh come on, Frank!  I did it (your encouragement helped) and I've been unemployed for the past six months.  Plus, I was just notified that my pension is being cut in half, which puts everything I own in jeopardy.  But, ya know?  Behind every cloud the sun is still shining!  :)
Thank you JeepnDrummer, I have to agree.
 Frank did a good job last year. Everyone has stuff in their life. Last Feb. 2008, My wife of 21 years took another path. I was divorced in November. Remarried in Feb. to my new wife. We separated two weeks ago until I sell my home at the worst time in history, so we can get one we can call our own. My church told me to take a break until June. We are all going to counseling.
This is just 11 measures of drummin'. I have to agree with you, Behind every cloud the sun is still shining ;D. This has been the hardest year of my life. God teaches us not to worry....Been reading all these post and I am really looking forward to this one. Frank Briggs is something else and Gad is in this one. Honestly,
I will miss Felix this year. He will come through it. Life is a storm and I have been in one for over a year. We all go through them. Can't wait to hear this one 8).
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on May 05, 2009, 10:03 AM
Okay ... here's the list of solos that I have, in the order that they were received and in the order they will appear. If you don't see your name listed and you sent (or think you sent) in a solo, please let me know immediately.

Gaetano
JonE
Hannah
drumnut1
robyn
Frank Briggs
dizz
Autocrat
Scott "The Waterboy" Budnik
Bob Crowley
nathan
Gaddabout
Drum4JC
Matt / Todd (duet)
Bob Dias
Jeepndrummer
David Crigger


I'm working on doing some editing and mixing on all the solos, so I need to finalize this. I still have to record my solo, so I'll be bringing up the rear this year.  :-\

There's one or two slots open; I thought we had 20, but I miscounted. So if you are not listed and recorded a solo ... send it in! If you didn't record a solo, but want to, do it ... do it now! I may record a drum solo and a perc solo, but would rather have one entry per person.

I'm going to do my best to get this all done this week and air it next week on DCTV.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: frankbriggs on May 05, 2009, 09:05 PM
Bart
Did you get the version I sent without the music?
I thought I was really late.. apparently not.
-fb
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Robyn on May 05, 2009, 09:57 PM
Hoo boy.  :o

Maybe next year I'll play the solo on my bodhran.  ;D

robyn
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on May 05, 2009, 10:06 PM
Bart
Did you get the version I sent without the music?
I thought I was really late.. apparently not.
-fb


I did ... and you are good to go!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on May 07, 2009, 11:06 PM
I'm going to be on the road this weekend and will be at the Chicago Drum Show the following weekend. Still working on getting this all together. I'm going to try and finish putting everything together while I'm on the road this weekend and have it ready sometime on Monday.

I'll post the composition here and will feature it on Drummer Cafe TV.
Title: DONE!
Post by: Bart Elliott on May 12, 2009, 09:03 AM
Okay ... finally have the composition mixed and uploaded. Here it is:

 http://www.drummercafe.com/music-industry/featured-articles/community-drum-percussion-groove-solo.html]http://www.drummercafe.com/music-industry/featured-articles/community-drum-percussion-groove-solo.html

Send me an Instant Message if I've misspelled anyone's name, etc. Did my best to make everyone sound good and blend overall. It's a challenge when we all recorded with different set-ups, video and audio codecs, etc. I'm still on the road and had to upload this huge video file via my cell phone :o ... so any corrections will need to be made when I can get on a decent broadband connection.

FYI, keep in mind that not everyone micked up their kit, so there will be differences. For example, I didn't mic my kit; I just used two overheads with a minimal drum set-up.

I think it would be a lot of fun to continue this thread. Participants please share with us your set-up as well as how you came up with or what you were playing in your solo/groove. I've been enjoying everyone's solo, and have just about every one of them memorized after all the hours of editing and rendering. Funny note, I had to render and watch the solos again and again, numerous times to get the right settings; keeping the video/audio quality high while at the same time keeping the file size small.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on May 12, 2009, 09:50 AM
My set up was every drum in Todd's house we could fit on a rack.

I came up with my part by starting playing every possible thing wrong, looking at the clock, and thinking, "Hmmmm. I should probably lay something down that actually sounds like it's within the same pulse and meter." And I still blew chunks on the ending.

Ladies and gentlemen, Todd on the conga solo. *crowd goes crazy*

BTW, yes, I'm 15 mos. pregnant.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: frankbriggs on May 12, 2009, 12:43 PM
Is anyone else having trouble viewing this?? It is really choppy and the audio and video are not in sync.

However, I did get through the audio but not able to match everyone up before I gave up on it.

That being said, I have to say for what I have heard/viewed so far ...which isn't much.
IMHO
Hannah Ford kicks some major ass and came up with a really unique approach to this track, great bass drum work and kept it all grooving.

I haven't been able to check out much else because of the sync issue. Maybe there are too many people watching it??

Anyway... Really Nice job Hannah!!!.. I am looking forward to hearing/seeing the rest of you.
-fb
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on May 12, 2009, 12:52 PM
Bart needs to upload this to YouTube with the HQ option! I wanna share it on Facebook
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on May 12, 2009, 01:04 PM
Bart needs to upload this to YouTube with the HQ option! I wanna share it on Facebook

Will do once I get a broadband connection.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: JeepnDrummer on May 12, 2009, 02:15 PM
Wow, nice job everyone!  And Bart, thank you for putting this together (again).  I know editing audio and video is very time-consuming work.

My set-up: I used Tempus fiberglass drums (10x14, 16x18, 17x24) and a Ludwig Acrolite snare.

I recorded using an Audix D6 on kick and one (SDC) condenser overhead positioned about 2.5 feet over my right shoulder and pointed toward the snare drum.  I high-passed the SDC because I thought it picked up too much kick (creating phase issues), but in doing so it made the toms sound a little thin.

I came up with my solo similar to how Gaddabout came up with his. The things I initially had in mind just didn't sound good, so I kept working to make it even more simple.  It's not great, but it was the best up to that point and I was out of time.

While I enjoyed everyone's contribution, David's solo was super-duper cool.  ;D
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: frankbriggs on May 12, 2009, 02:39 PM
Will do once I get a broadband connection.

I failed to thank Bart.. THANKS BART!
This stuff is time consuming. Namm 09 took an entire day and some of the next morning.

Another testimony to a great site and resource.

I will post all my specs  a little later.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on May 12, 2009, 03:22 PM
You are most welcome everyone. This is what it's all about ... community.  ;D
A big "thank you" to everyone who participated. As I mentioned, combining everyone's video when they've all been recorded in different ways (compression, bitrates, etc.), brings a unique challenge when trying to create one final product. I had to take some solos and convert them into other formats in order to make them compatible. And rendering video is about like watching a kettle, waiting for it to boil.

FYI ... all solos appear in the order I received them.

My Set-Up & Solo
I was scrambling to get MY solo recorded; I was the last one to do so. I set up a four piece configuration from my Fibes kit; 22" Kick, 10" & 14" Toms, and 6.5x14" Snare. The only cymbals I chose to use where my HiHats; Sabian HHX Evolution HiHats. Micking was two overhead mics; no time to mic up an entire kit.  :)  I did use my new video camera, the Canon XH-A1s.

As for my solo idea, uhmmm, of all people I should have worked on it and planned more, but you know ... the spontaneous, in the moment stuff can be okay too. I started out implying a swung sixteenth feel, ala New Jack Swing. Although the bass line was straight, there were so few sixteenths that one can imply a wide variety of feels ... so I attempted to do so. From there I did some rhythmic displacement, or as Vinnie would say "superimposed metric modulation". I was planning to do something along those lines, so that was completely "in the moment", although I didn't have anything worked out (obvious I'm sure). The "displacement" was based on the dotted-eighth-note, starting in the middle of a bar, then resolving with the dotted figures in the bass line. From there I moved around the set-up using double strokes, including the Kick drum, went into some sextuplet figure around the drums. The final figure was with a linear approach, playing over the bar and around the figure, as opposed to only playing the rhythmic figure.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: dizz on May 12, 2009, 04:59 PM
Wow It really is an honor to play along side you guys!  I guess I didn't read well enough, I thought we got double the time we actually got.  In other words, 2 times through the section like the original mp3.  Although that would have  made this final community clip 2wice as long.

I love the idea of the community solo and Sincerely thank Bart for hosting and editing.

I'm not having any trouble with sync or latency internet trouble.

Bart: I loved the idea of metric modulation you used.  I too toyed with the superimposed metric modulation if thats what I did here in the second take around the :32 second mark.

My biggest fan is my pup  ::)

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AdK_z05SZY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AdK_z05SZY

Frank Briggs: what lick was that?  Sounded like rapid fire assault. :D

Of course, Crigger showing his promanship :D

And Hannah I love how you always look like there is no place you'd rather be than behind the kit and play your backbeat with sincere conviction! ;)

Ill reply with more notes, when I have a chance to relax and really check this out.

For now, I thank everyone for submitting and am proud to be included in a group musical effort like this.  Maybe we can do something like this in the future where, the original mp3 clip is say, 60-80 seconds and each of use or chooses ONE percussion instrument.  Or we draw straws to pick an instrument.  Then we communitize an ensemble of percussion sounds each playing  only one instrument through a movement with say an A, B and C section with some kind of bridge :)  Fun Fun.  I am already looking forward to the next one.

Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on May 12, 2009, 05:08 PM
How I came up with what I played?  Hmmmm.....  Well, I'm not the funkiest guy in the house, and struggled to land in the pocket with anything that sounded decent, so I figured I'd try to do a little 3:4 sort of vibe.  It's not as blatant as I had hoped, but oh well.

Here's my Ludwig rig.  It's my "regular" gig kit and the one I used for the vid.

(https://www.drummercafe.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com%2Fimages02%2F54%2Fl_130d855b23894e1298b9422e08cd66f6.jpg&hash=43068fb024743c619633f432ef8d6f14)

PS:  Thanks again to Bart.  I know this thing is a labor of love(?).  I certainly appreciate your efforts.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on May 12, 2009, 05:25 PM
Is anyone else having trouble viewing this?? It is really choppy and the audio and video are not in sync.

However, I did get through the audio but not able to match everyone up before I gave up on it.

That being said, I have to say for what I have heard/viewed so far ...which isn't much.
IMHO
Hannah Ford kicks some major ass and came up with a really unique approach to this track, great bass drum work and kept it all grooving.

I haven't been able to check out much else because of the sync issue. Maybe there are too many people watching it??

Anyway... Really Nice job Hannah!!!.. I am looking forward to hearing/seeing the rest of you.
-fb

Awww, thank you Frank!  WOW......I really appreciate the kind words.  Looking back I wish we would have taken a little more time, used a "real" camera and got just a little better quality on the audio. 

It was still 15 minutes of great fun!!

Thanks again!  You made a kids day...:)

Hannah
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on May 12, 2009, 05:28 PM
I'm frustrated enough with how I let the ending go I'm going to reshoot this weekend and post it on YouTube. How about that?
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: dizz on May 12, 2009, 05:39 PM
I'm frustrated enough with how I let the ending go I'm going to reshoot this weekend and post it on YouTube. How about that?

Maybe someone with the editing capabilites that Bart has can take the pressure off Bart who Im sure keeps busier than alot of us.  Then we can do more community songs inside a year.  I have audio software and would do it for audio tunes, but no video gear except a borrowed camera lol

Then we could do that Gaddy.  But really, they're never gonna be perfect and your solo was cool.  I especially like the groove cowbell/hat pulse behind the conga solo ;)
-------------------------
Edit:

Just wanted to note-
I love your gear Scott Budnik !!


Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on May 12, 2009, 08:48 PM
Is anyone else having trouble viewing this?? It is really choppy and the audio and video are not in sync.

IMHO
Yes Frank,
I had some issues with the choppy video and the audio not being in sync but I got through it twice. Some really cool stuff going on out there. Really enjoyed You, Dave and Bart. Some cool stuff this year. It may have just been sample time or my computer updating slowly. I don't know, haven't had that problem before. Bart, thank you for all your hard work on the road. Great fun again this year. As always, I really enjoyed Gaetano, Hannah and the cool stuff Gaddy and Todd did.  Dizz, enjoyed your solo and set up. Good to see Jon and Robyn play. Thanks to everyone, we made it happen again ;D.
                                        Nutty
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Todd Norris on May 12, 2009, 09:52 PM
My set up was every drum in Todd's house we could fit on a rack.

I came up with my part by starting playing every possible thing wrong, looking at the clock, and thinking, "Hmmmm. I should probably lay something down that actually sounds like it's within the same pulse and meter." And I still blew chunks on the ending.

Ladies and gentlemen, Todd on the conga solo. *crowd goes crazy*

BTW, yes, I'm 15 mos. pregnant.

Well actually, we still had a bunch of pipeband drums and a few snares lying around...  And we only used about half the cymbals too!  The kit is a Pacific CX in fusion sizes with an add-on 16" floor.  Cymbals.  Sabian HH Bright hats, 16" and 18" Sabian Vault crashes.  Sabian HHX splashes. 18" Wuhan china.  22" Bosphorus Wide Ride.  22" Dream Bliss (Type 1) with 3 rivets.

As for what I played?  Ugh, I finally found a nice groove (thanks to Matt's advice) but then I forgot to do anything else with it!  Oh well. 
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: frankbriggs on May 12, 2009, 09:56 PM
Awww, thank you Frank!  WOW......I really appreciate the kind words.
Thanks again!  You made a kids day...:)
Hannah

uhh..You did great Grasshopper. Wish I could see all of it.. the video isn't working at all for me.


Frank Briggs: what lick was that?  Sounded like rapid fire assault. :D

That was number 4 (out of 5)

I think I figured out which audio track you are Dizz.. nice stuff. I am going to wait until I can actually view it all in sync.

Matt... I would just chill on it. This is all for fun. I am sure it is fine. I couldn't get past Hannah's performance. Gaetano sounds great also.. but I expected that.

It is nice to see the girls involved, we need more.
chow for now.
-fb
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Nathan Cartier on May 12, 2009, 10:14 PM
I'm stuck with the Hilton Hawaii's terrible internet, so it'll have to wait til I get home next week.  I managed to hear most of it before the feed totally crapped out.  Love it!

My drums are Pearl Export Select from about 1996.
Yamaha Absolute Maple snare.  
Aquarian Coated Super-2s on the toms, Classic Clear resos
Texture Coated with a power dot on the underside for the snare
SK1/Force 2 combo on the bass
Zildian 20" K Custom Dry Ride
Sabian 14" Vault Hats
Sabian 16" AAX Studio Crash
Sabian 18" Signature Saturation Crash
Zildjian 16" Oriental China

I used a single shure KSM 27 just above my head angled at the kit.  It sounded alright, and I was pressed for time.  Mixed the audio and video in Sonar Home Studio.

11 bars is not a lot of time.  Trading 2's seemed like a good way to break it up, 2 bars of groove, 2 bars of solo, repeat, hit the ending.  I got a few ideas that I liked and went for it.  

Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Todd Norris on May 12, 2009, 10:27 PM
Forgot to mention my "trash hats".  12" ozone splash on top of a 12" wuhan china. 

I've watched it all twice now.  Wow there's some great playing in there!  Aside from the obvious amazing stuff submitted by our resident pros (Hannah, Gaetano, Frank, David, Bart etc.) I really liked Dizz's performance.  Plus, I like his dog!  Great job folks!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on May 12, 2009, 10:37 PM
Maybe someone with the editing capabilites that Bart has can take the pressure off Bart who Im sure keeps busier than alot of us.  Then we can do more community songs inside a year.  I have audio software and would do it for audio tunes, but no video gear except a borrowed camera lol

I work at a TV station, edit on linear digital AVID, and have carte blanche use of all the equipment and even the studios on the weekend. Yes, I could do it. If someone came up with a good loop and enough people wanted to do this sooner rather than later, I'd be happy to put it together. I'd be happy to do this for Bart next year, assuming I'm not laid off by then (looking for some wood to knock on).

I especially like the groove cowbell/hat pulse behind the conga solo ;)

Oddly enough, I really could have used MORE COWBELL.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on May 12, 2009, 10:39 PM
Matt... I would just chill on it. This is all for fun. I am sure it is fine. I couldn't get past Hannah's performance. Gaetano sounds great also.. but I expected that.

I need to put together a clip file, anyway, so I'm just going throw this one in as one of several. Honestly, though, that ending is going to eat me up until I fix it. LOL I got it right when I played with Todd .... garrrr.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on May 12, 2009, 10:43 PM
Forgot to mention my "trash hats".  12" ozone splash on top of a 12" wuhan china. 

I've watched it all twice now.  Wow there's some great playing in there!  Aside from the obvious amazing stuff submitted by our resident pros (Hannah, Gaetano, Frank, David, Bart etc.) I really liked Dizz's performance.  Plus, I like his dog!  Great job folks!

While I'm in this thread, I have to say special thanks to Todd. Here's what he did for me:

- Fed me (gooooood sandwiches)
- Had the kit already set up
- Had the camera ready to go
- Had the music cued up (with double headphones)
- Cut up the takes and sent them to Bart.

All I did was show up. This guy, Todd, he's very cool.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on May 12, 2009, 10:45 PM
It was great a great pleasure being a part of this with all you folks 8).

Guess I'll list all my gear even though I only played on a few pieces ::).

6 piece Tama Star Classic Birch, Mod Oyster Orange with Evans Coated G2's
Witt Percussion-Flame Red Lake Superior Birch 6X14 steam bent Snare With Evans Reverse Power Dot
8in Paiste 2002 splash
12in. Paiste Sound Formula splash
14in. Paiste 2002 Sound Edge Hi Hats-Bottom is Black Label Vintage and the top is black label Anniversary
15in. Paiste 2002 Crash
16in. Paiste Sound Formula Thin Crash
17in. Paiste Sound Formula Power Crash
18in. Paiste 2002 Black Label Vintage Crash
18in. Paiste 2002 Crash
18in. Paiste 3000 Nova China
18in. Paiste Signature Thin China
19in. Paiste 2002 Crash
20in. Paiste 2002 Black Label Vintage Crash
22in. Paiste 2002 Ride
24in. Paiste 2002 Ride
Tree Works-Chimes
Cow Bell
Wood Block

I used a Digital Samsung Standard Definition Camera and the stereo condensor Mic.
 Didn't use the PA for anything but Head Phones. I didn't mic at all.



Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on May 12, 2009, 11:10 PM
Anyone having problems with the video/audio sync probably needs to update to  http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/]Flash Player 10 .

FYI ... some of the weirdness is the fact that solos were recorded a low quality settings or rendered as such before sending them to me. I had to convert Hannah and Robyn's solos from AVI to MOV just to get them to play in the timeline. I may need to do this with several other solos to clean up the overall look a little more. Once I get everything ironed out, I'll go public with the community solo, posting it on Facebook and airing it on Drummer Cafe TV. I probably should have waited to post the video, but I knew that we were all anxious to see the final result.  ;D
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Hannah Ford on May 12, 2009, 11:30 PM
Ok...I'm back again...no more rehearsals tonight....no more compositions or transcriptions....Shewwww, now I can spend a little time here with friends.  lol

As usual the community solo is a huge success.  All the players added their own personal blends of groove and technique. It's simply the coolest thing. I've only gotten to go through it a couple of times and I"m getting ready to watch it a couple more....

Dizz you played great, but your dog showing up in the video is CLASSIC!

Todd and Matt...it was awesome you guys teamed up I really liked that idea.  Matt your solo was fine...:)

It was awesome to see some more Girl Power this year...glad you decided to send one in Robyn!  

Nutty...SWEET KIT!  You going to make it up to INDY for PASIC this year?

Gaetano, Frank, Crigger & Bart...WOW!  Don't know what else to say....

Like I said I'm going to watch a few more times to see the others I like too!  Everybody just did AWESOME...

My kit???  Well, like I said we were on our way to a gig and just threw together a much smaller version of my ROCK/FUSION set....

Gretsch Renown Maple
10 & 12 inch rack toms......Evans EC2 Batter Heads
14 & 16 inch floor toms......Clear Genera Reso's
22 inch bass drum.............Evans EMAD II
Gretsch
5 x 14 Hammered Brass Snare....Genera HDD Batter
                                            Hazy 300 Reso
                                            Puresound Wires

Zildjian Cymbals
14" New Beats Hats (Brilliant)              
18" Armand Thin Crash + 10" Armand Splash   
19” K Custom Hybrid Crash    
20" Ping Ride
22" A Swish Knocker
34" Gong

Gibraltar Hardware with Gibraltar Intruder Chain Drive Pedals

The vid was shot with my Dad's FUGI digital camera....lol

Not going to list anymore stuff that was in the video....all done.

Hannah
   


Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Todd Norris on May 12, 2009, 11:48 PM
While I'm in this thread, I have to say special thanks to Todd. Here's what he did for me:

- Fed me (gooooood sandwiches)
- Had the kit already set up
- Had the camera ready to go
- Had the music cued up (with double headphones)
- Cut up the takes and sent them to Bart.

All I did was show up. This guy, Todd, he's very cool.

Aww Shucks man!     ::)   We were way overdue for a hookup and we had a lot of fun hanging out.  I'm looking forward to our next jam session.  And maybe next time my son won't be so shy and will want to play his pipeband tenor drum with us too!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: eardrum on May 13, 2009, 01:58 AM
Excellent job folks!  Thanks for doing this Bart.  I'm sorry I couldn't get to it this year. Hopefully next time.  Doing the video is great even with the choppyness...

Looking forward to more. 
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on May 13, 2009, 06:53 AM
Anyone having problems with the video/audio sync probably needs to update to  http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/]Flash Player 10 .

That did seem to help some Bart. Thank you.
Nutty...SWEET KIT!  You going to make it up to INDY for PASIC this year?


Thank you Hannah for the complement on the kit and yes, I am planning on going this year. It is only a 2.5 hour drive for me. Hope to see some DC members there?
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Robyn on May 13, 2009, 01:31 PM
I had to laugh watching myself play, in w/ all these other creative and dynamic players!  Wow--have I learned a lot watching all you guys! I will say however, that I'm pretty happy w/ what I came up with, as simple as it was, considering I've been playing drums almost 6 years.

My bigger concern was this:

Me: Do these jeans make me look fat?
Him: Yeah. Put on the other ones. (bless his honest heart..)
Me: (looking at video) I still look fat.
Him: (shrugs) Camera adds 10 pounds.  ::)

Nutty, I love all your cymbals! Wow! Same w/ Todd's set up, w/ 2 hats?  :o  Really enjoyed Matt and Todd's solo too.  And Dizz's really stood out to me.  All of them were well done!

robyn
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on May 13, 2009, 09:56 PM
Okay ... I'm rendering the video again. High definition isn't working out when original solo videos are in standard definition. As soon as I get this uploaded I'll let you know. Live and learn.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on May 13, 2009, 11:04 PM
Okay ... here's the newly rendered video ... this should (hopefully) solve all the sync problems with the playback. No longer in widescreen 16:9 but now standard 4:3. Make sure you've cleared your browser cache.

 http://www.drummercafe.com/music-industry/featured-articles/community-drum-percussion-groove-solo.html]http://www.drummercafe.com/music-industry/featured-articles/community-drum-percussion-groove-solo.html

Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: eardrum on May 14, 2009, 01:44 AM
Frank,
Were those Blushda's on for the final flurry?
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on May 14, 2009, 04:30 AM
Okay ... here's the newly rendered video ... this should (hopefully) solve all the sync problems with the playback. No longer in widescreen 16:9 but now standard 4:3. Make sure you've cleared your browser cache.

 http://www.drummercafe.com/music-industry/featured-articles/community-drum-percussion-groove-solo.html]http://www.drummercafe.com/music-industry/featured-articles/community-drum-percussion-groove-solo.html


That fixed it. I had tried to load Adobe upgrade and Explorer 8. Now I  can see Gaetano's sticks connecting when I hear it ;D.  Much better.
Frank,
Were those Blushda's on for the final flurry?

Yea, That was fast and now that I can see what is going on a bit better David Crigger has got some of that going on too.


It really goes to show how different people hear things. Everyone came up with something different..That is really cool 8).
 
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mister Acrolite on May 14, 2009, 06:29 AM
Great job, everybody!

Next year I'm bound and determined to participate - I was sidelined this year by hernia surgery (no fun - I don't recommend it), but I hope to join the ranks of all these fine drummers next time around, for a slice of video posterity.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Matt Self (Gaddabout) on May 14, 2009, 08:50 AM
Great job, everybody!

Next year I'm bound and determined to participate - I was sidelined this year by hernia surgery (no fun - I don't recommend it), but I hope to join the ranks of all these fine drummers next time around, for a slice of video posterity.

We had dizz, who I secretly suspect is your brother.

Get well, Keith!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bob Dias on May 14, 2009, 12:31 PM
Wow,
After listening/watching that, my inferiority complex just grew 3.5 sizes.
Well done everyone and especially Bart for putting it all together.

My kit (though not fully exploited):

Ash Stave: 6x12, 8x14, 12x16 toms, 16x20 bass, 5x13 snare.
Heads: as recorded, old Fiberskyns all around (yuck, so they got changes to shiney new Aquarian Studio-X's/classic clears and the SKII/regulator bass combo today)

Cymbals:  16',17",18",19" Sultan Crashes; 14" Sultan Hats; 21" Bos NewOrleans ride; 21" medhvy Turk ride; 22" Agop Turk China

My groove/rut: My blues band (HRB) plays a stripped-down version of "Hey Pocky Way".  The beat I play on that seemed to fit. So, there you go.


ll 4/4 l: MUSTgopractice :ll ...Bob
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: frankbriggs on May 14, 2009, 12:58 PM
Okay ... here's the newly rendered video ... this should (hopefully) solve all the sync problems with the playback. No longer in widescreen 16:9 but now standard 4:3. Make sure you've cleared your browser cache.

 http://www.drummercafe.com/music-industry/featured-articles/community-drum-percussion-groove-solo.html]http://www.drummercafe.com/music-industry/featured-articles/community-drum-percussion-groove-solo.html



Thanks Bart,
I can view it now.. in sync.

I hope everyone had a good time doing this... I certainly did and was happy to make it in.

I thoroughly enjoyed everyone's contribution. Dizz is a sick man. Bart David and Gaetano are a little ill as well.

I really dug the female contingent. Hannah rocks and I liked the obvious pleasure as she flips the beat around. It is always the drummer who has the most fun doing that.. have you noticed?:)

Robyn.. nice job and very much in the spirit of Harvey Mason's original performance and you look HOT:)

Matt .. great to see you playing bro.. chill, I dug it, the duet with Todd is a nice touch.
Jon ... I stole that lick.. THANKS!

Mark.. A bit of Mike Clark influence, very nice.

Pier.. What a cool setup, I like the poly rhythms and the little tom with the black dot head.. reminds me of Zappa..

Scott.. What is that kit man?? I want one.

Bob Nice, I used to be an electronics nut, nice concept too!

Nathan has a nice pocket going on and I like the setup for the final figure...very cool.

Bob has another interesting kit.. what is that?

Tom's kit sounds great.. the bass drum is huge sounding... very Bonham-like in sound and performance.

I need a DC t-shirt. That was a nice touch David.

Thanks for allowing me to be a part of this everyone. I am proud to be in this with y'all.
Looking forward to the next one.

Keith, I had that hernia operation about 10 years ago, thanks to hauling a trap case around for decades. The doctor told me I would feel a "little" discomfort. Hurts like hell doesn't it?
Get well and try not bend too much. You gotta do this next time around.

My set up


Drum Workshop
10, 12, 14 toms
20" kick
Noble & Cooley Alloy Classic snare

Istanbul Agop Sig cymbals
15" Istanbul Agop traditional hats. (I also have a set of 14" inch that I love)

eardrum.. not blushdas.
I guess that would be 32nd note paradiddle-diddles (Philly Joe jones style)
RLRRLF phrased in 3. if that doesn't make sense to you I will write it out sometime and post it.

Thanks everyone.. what fun!
-fb


Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: dizz on May 15, 2009, 12:19 AM
Gaetano, you have a really nice sound going.  And very clean execution.  I saw those heads at the local store and they sounded pretty good.  I am also a huge fan of Istanbul cymbals.  Nice polished stuff :)

Jon E, those are some nice Ludwigs there huh.  Toms are very warm and resonanty.  With your groove choice and cymbal set up, I had thoughts of Manu Katche running through my mind. 

Hannah, Great natural stage presence and solid play.  You really got something good going keep it up!  I'm a fan!

Mark you have the prettiest tama wrap I have ever seen!  With those new heads and pretty cymbals I bet you love to get back there and make noise.   Do you have any close up pix of that wrap?

Robyn, your relaxed touch on the drums will serve you till the end.   Nice solid playing :)

Frank, you have to let the cat out of the bag on those licks  8)  Very heady stuff.  What is the crash cymbal at your 10 O'clock?

Pier, I love that splash cymbal.  Nice melody.  The whole kit got love on that one :)

Scott Budnik, I laughed so hard at that drum set haha  ;D  Good job getting those to sound like drums!

Bob Crowley Nice melodic sounding tom pattern.  Warm sounding kit choice.

Nathan, nice relaxed technique.  Looks like you have a heavy touch that lands right in the pocket.  Love the sound of that ride cymbal.  Is that one of those K's?

Matt, Mr A is a great looking guy  ;D

Todd, Is that one of your snares?  I cant quite tell what Im looking at there.  Is that some kind of RIMS rig?  Cool idea on the duet.  Nice job guys

Bob, I absolutely love your drumset.  Would have loved to seen video.  Nice choice of grooves for your submission.

Tom Roche, those drums are Massive sounding  -holy crap  I want to make some loops with that sound.  Hot stuff

David, I love that lick, Im going to shed on that one for a bit, its very tasty for its business.  Thanks very much for submitting a take!  I wish one of you awesome drummers lived near me, I need a teacher!

Bart, as usual you get some insteresting complicated stuff going on on such a minimalist set up.  I love those Fibes too man.   With the matching 6.5 snare is it?  Are those yammy mounts?

I can't wait for the next one.  Maybe we can get Matt to host one mid season or something  8)  You know, no 2 submission sounded anything alike.  How cool is that  /salute

I'd like to extend one more big thank you to our resident pros submitting their takes.  Means alot to us hobbiests

Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Nathan Cartier on May 15, 2009, 12:45 AM

Nathan, nice relaxed technique.  Looks like you have a heavy touch that lands right in the pocket.  Love the sound of that ride cymbal.  Is that one of those K's?


Indeed, a 20" K Custom Dry.  Mahalo for the kind words!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Mark Counts on May 15, 2009, 04:27 AM

Mark you have the prettiest tama wrap I have ever seen!  With those new heads and pretty cymbals I bet you love to get back there and make noise.   Do you have any close up pix of that wrap?



Thanks Dizz,
Here is a shot of them that shows the wrap a bit better.
(https://www.drummercafe.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg300.imageshack.us%2Fimg300%2F5130%2F7drums15cymbals007uu4.jpg&hash=0a8e6da41f0a2de1d679000e0e561e2f)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: felix on May 15, 2009, 08:49 AM
Gaetano always plays (and sounds) so incredibly beautiful!

You really have a gift.

Like the new haircut pizan  First class all the way!   :D

I guess I will have to get a video camera for next year.   :(
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Chip Donaho on May 15, 2009, 03:50 PM
Nutty, that color reminds me of my old "Mod Orange" Ludwigs I had in '69 or '70.
Sure wish I wouldn't have sold that set now.  8)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: eardrum on May 16, 2009, 12:49 AM
......eardrum.. not blushdas.
I guess that would be 32nd note paradiddle-diddles (Philly Joe jones style)
RLRRLF phrased in 3. if that doesn't make sense to you I will write it out sometime and post it.
.....

Well it makes sense until I watch you play it!  YIKES, if this was a nuclear arms race, I'd be the Duchy of Grand Fenwick!
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: NY Frank on May 16, 2009, 12:50 AM
I was actually not going to listen to this year's, because it wasn't in my heart to participate, and I just wanted to let it go.

But - I just listened/watched.  God bless you all.  Great, great job.
I was I had joined in.

Great stuff.  Lots of fun.  Lots of music and art flowing from your hearts.

Very cool.
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Gaetano Nicolosi on May 17, 2009, 02:19 AM
Wow I am so lost on this topic! I did not have a chance to check this out and post anything until now due to a family matter. I don't know where to start... ???


Quote from Dizz:
Gaetano, you have a really nice sound going.  And very clean execution.  I saw those heads at the local store and they sounded pretty good.  I am also a huge fan of Istanbul cymbals.  Nice polished stuff :)


Dizz thanks so much for your feedback! You sound great too! The black heads that you see are the new Onix from Evans, it is the first time that i use them and I love them!


Quote from Felix:
Gaetano always plays (and sounds) so incredibly beautiful!

You really have a gift.

Like the new haircut pizan  First class all the way!   :D

I guess I will have to get a video camera for next year.   :(


Felix, thanks for the kind of words... You are too nice! I wish you would participate this year, oh well definitely next year! I am glad you like my hair cut pizan (I don't really know what it means)


Thanks to you all that have participate, I really enjoy all of you!

Frank Briggs, I had not doubt of your amazing playing. I have your new CD China Range that I enjoy listening and never comes out of my car CD player, I am a big fan.

David and Bart, you both played great too.

Hannah, you do sound good and I always enjoy hear you playing.

Everybody sound and look good!

I am disappointed of my video quality, I must do some wrong (maybe not enough light, or something wrong when I rendered). Also, I just found out that my camera it is not HD, and that could be too.

John, what video camera did you use? I definitely can see a huge difference of the video quality, especially because your solo is right after.

Anyhow, here is my set up:

Drums:
Gretsch renown maple
Toms: 8", 10", 12", floor toms 14" and 16"
snare 14"x5"
Also on my left I had a steel soprano snare Mapex Pro 10"x6"

Evans drumheads:
Toms and Floor toms: Onix top and resonant on the bottom
Snare: G2 coated and Hazy300
Bass drums emad clear

Cymbals:
Istanbul Agop traditional
18" Paper Thin Crash, 16" dark crash, 18" medium crash, 14" regular hi-hat, 21" heavy ride, and 20" China Pang.
Sultan 14" crash

Alchemy
8" splash, 10" splash, and 14" rock hi-hat (on the right)

Ciao
Gaetano
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on May 17, 2009, 05:41 AM
Quote
Jon, what video camera did you use? I definitely can see a huge difference of the video quality, especially because your solo is right after.

It is a Canon Vixia HG20.  It is an HD camera(my wife is the techie at our house, maybe that's why I just play drums!!)


Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on May 24, 2009, 07:33 AM
For those that wanted to be able to share your solo with the world, I've uploaded the community solo to YouTube. You can email the link or embed it on your web pages.

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/kHxbGTr-JEU&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&hd=1&border=1


Hey Pier-Antoine (aka Autocrat) ... you're on the front cover of the video and have participated in several community solos now. How about supporting the Drummer Cafe, becoming a VIP member so you can post on the forum?!  :)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on May 25, 2009, 08:12 AM
By the way ... anytime you watch a video on the Drummer Cafe channel on YouTube, please rank it and leave some sort of a comment. You'll be helping to great interest in the community by doing this.

There's always two rankers that hit Drummer Cafe videos; one always gives it 5 stars, and the other always gives it 1 star. Help create some reality and rank it the way you see it!  :)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Todd Norris on May 25, 2009, 07:48 PM
Todd, Is that one of your snares?  I cant quite tell what Im looking at there.  Is that some kind of RIMS rig?  Cool idea on the duet.  Nice job guys


Hi Dizz, yes, we used the prototype for the solo.  It sits on a mechanism that keeps the top head stationary while the bottom moves. 

Todd
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: David Crigger on May 26, 2009, 01:41 AM

Yea, That was fast and now that I can see what is going on a bit better David Crigger has got some of that going on too.

 

Great job - everybody!

So cool to put faces and playing with the names and the writings!

Plus just feels good to jam a bit with everyone - even if it is only in this virtual sort of way.

As for the 32nd notes in accented groups of 6 - there seemed to be a fair amount of that going around. Patterns based on outlining dotted 1/8th note rhythms came up a number of times (Not surprising really, considering the first three bass notes - after the pick-ups, of course).

From Jon getting us started his crosstick pattern, to Hannah's turn around back to the downbeat at 1:19; to Frank, a number of different ways, not just the fact groupings towards the end, but the cool unadorned dotted 1/8th on BD at the very end. Then Dizz's very nice take on what I think of as the "Billy Cobham lick" at 2:51. Then my, I guess. three dotted 1/8th variations - first shadowing the bass riff, then the "rock - hand and feet triplets" at 7:05 (not triplets but 32nd notes - L R F L R F), then the single stroke groups of six 32nds at the end.  Then there's Bart - who starts with a classic exploration of all things dotted 1/8th - including appearing to modulate the time to them as though they were 1/4's. Then at 7:37, he goes all "what the heck was that?" on us - before returning for some more groups of six 32nd's towards the end.

All in all, lots of different a varying takes on this piece - I just thought this one common thread was kind of cool.

For me, actually there was tie in the "What the heck was that" competition - as mentioned Bart at 7:37 AND Gaetano's lick at :26

Huh? What was that?

Very fun folks - can't wait to do it again.

David
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: David Crigger on May 26, 2009, 01:47 AM

I need a DC t-shirt. That was a nice touch David.

Funny thing with the shirt. Hadn't planned on it - but while setting up the video thing - I decided to compare my lighting to last year's submission. and realized that "OMG. I'm wearing exactly the SAME CLOTHES!"

So in changing from what I guess is my favorite Green Lantern t-shirt - I saw the Drummer Cafe shirt just hanging there and well, there you go...

David
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on May 26, 2009, 06:41 AM
So in changing from what I guess is my favorite Green Lantern t-shirt - I saw the Drummer Cafe shirt just hanging there and well, there you go...

 ;D  I intentionally wore a Drummer Cafe t-shirt, but you can't tell because of the camera angle.

Thanks to everyone who was able to wear their Drummer Cafe T-shirt; as Frank said, nice touch.  :)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on May 26, 2009, 07:16 AM
I was wearing my DC shirt the day before (when I couldn't play anything that didn't sound like I was throwing drums down the stairs!).  The next day I came home from work and just sat down and played.  Thus my "officious" garb.  Not very ROCKIN".
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Bart Elliott on May 26, 2009, 07:25 AM
I was wearing my DC shirt the day before (when I couldn't play anything that didn't sound like I was throwing drums down the stairs!).  The next day I came home from work and just sat down and played.  Thus my "officious" garb.  Not very ROCKIN".

So are you trying to blame the DC t-shirt?  ;)
Title: Re: Community drum solo 2009!
Post by: Jon E on May 26, 2009, 09:22 AM
Quote
So are you trying to blame the DC t-shirt?

Clearly!