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Situations: The Game

Started by Larry Lawless, January 01, 2007, 06:37 PM

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JeepnDrummer

Yep, it was an easy one.  :)

smoggrocks

i remember this game; my sis riddled me one many moons back. similar to the fish tale, but it involved a human, and the riddle was something to the effect of him accidentally killing himself with a slat of ice; and the ice melted, hence the puddle of water on the floor.

i like games like that; always good to exercise the 'ole cranium.

here goes another one:


sisters and brothers I have none
but that mans father is my fathers son




who am I talking about?

Larry Lawless

"that man" is my son. I think.

How about:

"A man and his son are involved in a car wreck, the man is killed instantly, the boy is rushed to the hospital in critical condition. The surgeon walks into the operating room, looks down at the boy and says, 'I can't operate on this boy, this is my son!' "

Bart Elliott

Quote from: L Lawless on January 02, 2007, 12:09 PM
"A man and his son are involved in a car wreck, the man is killed instantly, the boy is rushed to the hospital in critical condition. The surgeon walks into the operating room, looks down at the boy and says, 'I can't operate on this boy, this is my son!' "

The surgeon's gender isn't specified ... so it must be the boy's mother.

smoggrocks

Quote from: L Lawless on January 02, 2007, 12:09 PM
"that man" is my son. I think.

incorrect, but good try.

and i think bart is correct on that surgery thing, no?

Larry Lawless

Very good, Bart.

That one is for all the male chauvinists that wouldn't occur to them a surgeon could be a female.

I expected robyn to chime in on that one.

Larry Lawless

Quote from: smoggrocks on January 02, 2007, 10:32 AM

sisters and brothers I have none
but that mans father is my fathers son


who am I talking about?


OK, smoggy, ya got me stumped! hints?

Mister Acrolite

How could "my son" be incorrect, smoggy? I'm assuming we're identifying "that man," right?

Dave Heim


Bart Elliott

Quote from: smoggrocks on January 02, 2007, 10:32 AM
sisters and brothers I have none
but that man’s father is my father’s son


Talking about the man in the mirror?
The person making that statement is speaking of their self ... possibly looking at their own reflection, pointing at it as they make the statement.

If I were making the statement, then I am that/this man.

smoggrocks

ding, ding! dave from c. and bart are correct-o-mundo!

it is a self-reflective statement.


if it's any consolation, i never could figure it out myself!

Larry Lawless

Quote from: Bart Elliott on January 02, 2007, 01:03 PM
Talking about the man in the mirror?


Makes me want to go listen to some Michael Jackson.

That was a good one, smoggy!!

Mister Acrolite

Quote from: smoggrocks on January 02, 2007, 01:08 PM
ding, ding! dave from c. and bart are correct-o-mundo!

it is a self-reflective statement.


if it's any consolation, i never could figure it out myself!

I think you're wrong. If you google that riddle, it repeatedly tells you the answer is his son.

Think about it:

If you're looking at yourself, your father is NOT your father's son.

If you're looking at your son (and you're male), his father IS your father's son.

Dave Heim

Quote from: Mister Acrolite on January 02, 2007, 01:14 PM
I think you're wrong. If you google that riddle, it repeatedly tells you the answer is his son.

Think about it:

If you're looking at yourself, your father is NOT your father's son.

If you're looking at your son (and you're male), his father IS your father's son.

I'm changing my answer to Wynton Marsalis.  :)

Larry Lawless

Quote from: Dave From Chicago on January 02, 2007, 01:16 PM
I'm changing my answer to Wynton Marsalis.  :)

Doesn't he have a brother? ;)


Besides, Wynton stole that riddle from a used car dealer.

Bart Elliott

Here's a situation ... can you explain it?

You and your two buddies are on a road-trip and decide to call it a night. You pull into this small town with a local motel. In order to save some money, you decide to get one room for all three of you. The total cost for the room is $45, so you each give $15 to the desk clerk. As you head to the room, the clerk calls you back over to the desk. He states that he made a mistake and said the room was actually only $40. The clerk gives you back $5 in one-dollar bills. You and your two buddies each take one dollar back ... and then you tip the remaining $2 to the clerk for cathing the error.

Question:

If you each paid $15, but then you each got one dollar back, that means you each only paid $14.


$14 x 3 = $42

plus the $2 you gave as a tip to the desk clerk ...

$42 +$2 = $44

What happened to the other dollar?


Larry Lawless

The mathematical fallacy lies in this part:
Quote from: Bart Elliott on January 02, 2007, 01:35 PM


If you each paid $15, but then you each got one dollar back, that means you each only paid $14.


In actuality, you were refunded $1 2/3. ($5 divided by 3 = 1 2/3)
So, you really only paid $13 1/3.

Therefore:

$13 1/3 * 3 = $40

You each contributed $2/3 for the tip:

$2/3 * 3 = $2

Then gave that to the clerk:

$40 + $2 = ... $42


Wait a minute, I just lost 2 more dollars!!!

Bart Elliott

For the situation with the missing dollar ... there is an explanation.

Let me rephrase the problem:

The three individuals paid $15 each, totalling $45.
The clerk gave back $5.
Each of the three individuals grabbed $1 each ... leaving $2 which was given back to the clerk.

$15 paid by each individual
$1 refunded to each
equals $14 paid by each of the three individuals.

$14 times 3 equals $42, plus the $2 tip, equals $44.
$45 was originally paid, $44 has been accounted for, where's the missing dollar?

I'll give you the rest of the day to ponder, then I'll explain it to you ... maybe. ;)

Bart Elliott

Well ... chalk up another one for me in my ability to shut down a thread with a post!  :-\

Tony

Quote from: L Lawless on January 02, 2007, 01:58 PM
The mathematical fallacy lies in this part:
In actuality, you were refunded $1 2/3. ($5 divided by 3 = 1 2/3)
So, you really only paid $13 1/3.

Therefore:

$13 1/3 * 3 = $40

You each contributed $2/3 for the tip:

$2/3 * 3 = $2

Then gave that to the clerk:

$40 + $2 = ... $42


Wait a minute, I just lost 2 more dollars!!!

This is the correct math, you just forgot to add in the 3 bucks that was pocketed (each person's 1 dollar refund).  Your formula accounts for the $40 dollars paid plus the tip amount to the clerk.  The last step would be to add in the difference in the refund amount (the $1 in the 1 and 2/3 refund).